Thanks for the quick tip.

While it might solve the actual problem I did have this morning, it is neither 
a clean nor a general solution for everybody and for always, as it still 
implies that all ZIPs shall go in the Java classpath unless custom-packaged. 
Which means, possibly repackage rather EACH ZIP, as least ZIPs shall go on the 
classpath in reality (in 20+ years fulltime with Java I never wanted to add any 
ZIP to the Java classpath).

In fact, the actual intention of this discussion is not how to make my personal 
POM build right now (it in fact already does as I do not have any tests, so I 
could go with runtime scope), but what I want to reach is that we find a 
consensus how a clean and generic solution should look like -- and propose that 
solution to the Maven team. 😊

Thanks!
-Markus


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Von: Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> 
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juni 2022 11:13
An: Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: Keeping dependency out of all classpaths

Howdy,

just a quick idea: introduce your own packaging "quipsy-zip"? (yes, you'd need 
your extension to be added to build, but it's worth it, trust me).

Look here:
https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/maven-artifact/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/artifact/handler/ArtifactHandler.java#L58

So, your packaging defines (name="quipsy-zip", extension="zip", 
addedToClasspath=false...  it should work, and you'd depend on this zip as

<dependency>
  <groupId>org.group</groupId>
  <artifactId>artifact</artifactId>
  <version>1.0</version>
  <type>quipsy-zip</type>
</dependency>

See
https://medium.com/javarevisited/create-your-own-maven-packaging-2d69ad832720
(note: if you are NOT building this ZIP with maven, then you do not need 
lifecycle mapping, only the ArtifactHandler )

https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/maven-artifact/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/artifact/handler/ArtifactHandler.java#L31


HTH
T


On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:54 AM [Quipsy] Markus Karg <k...@quipsy.de>
wrote:

> How can I keep a dependency out of all classpaths?
>
> I do have a dependency in my project that produces a ZIP full of 
> resources. None of those resources is actually of any use for the Java 
> compiler; they solely serve as an input to third party plugins (not 
> dealing with Java at all). Unfortunately the Maven Compiler plugin 
> sees that ZIP and tries to read it, leading to error messages as the 
> ZIP is in an "unexpected" format (for now let's just say, it is 
> intentionally incompatible). So the question is, how to tell Maven to 
> not put that dependency on ANY Java classpath?
>
>
>   1.  "runtime" Scope: compile is happy now, but test-compile still fails
>   2.  Moving the dependency from being a project dependency to being a 
> plugin-specific dependency: compile and test-compile are happy now, 
> but -am doesn't build the dependency anymore and dependency:tree (and 
> other
> scanners) does not tell me about the existence oft hat dependency at all
>   3.  "resource" Scope: would be exactly what I like to do, but Maven 
> does not have such a scope: compile and test-compile would be happy, 
> and -am still would build the dependency just like other scanners it 
> would still see the dependency
>
> In the end, the bigger question actually is, how to tell ANY plugin to 
> ignore particular dependencies of my POM? Just because my project is 
> of type WAR does not mean that EVERYTING it depends upon shall be 
> processed by the Java toolchain... Maybe it would be better if the 
> Maven Compiler Plugin JUST puts those dependencies on the classpath that 
> actually are JARs...?
>
> Thanks a lot!
> -Markus
>
>

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