Kathryn

The idea is to have one proxy per organisation. That way if all the
programmers need spring as a dependancy, the proxy only downloads it
once, when the first programmer tries to build their project. the next
programmer gets the dependancy from the proxy, making it much faster.

Ben


On 5/25/06, Kathryn Huxtable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks, that worked.

Is the general opinion that each developer should set up maven-proxy on
their own machine, or have one proxy site for an organization? If it's on my
local machine I can use standalone.

-K


On 5/25/06 2:36 PM, "ben short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kathryn.
>
> You need to add the following to your settings.xml.
>
> <mirror>
> <mirrorOf>central</mirrorOf>
> <name>Internal Mirror</name>
> <url>http://url.to.your.proxy</url>
> <id>local-proxy</id>
> </mirror>
>
> When you rum mvn on your local machine it will go to your proxy for
> the plugins and dependancies it needs. If the proxy doesnt have the
> requested jars it will try and get them from ibiblio, codehaus or
> other remote repositries.
>
> Ben
>
> On 5/25/06, Kathryn Huxtable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Okay, I'll bite. I just set up maven-proxy-webapp (my team doesn't have
>> control over the firewall settings for our web servers, so I need to have
>> this on 80/443).
>>
>> I copied a maven-proxy-config.properties file from somewhere and edited the
>> WEB_ROOT to be my local locations.
>>
>> What now?
>>
>> What do I change in settings.xml and pom.xml to make this work?
>>
>> And how do I populate the proxy with jars so that the next time codehaus or
>> ibiblio is down I can get work done?
>>
>> -K
>>
>>
>> On 5/25/06 11:51 AM, "dan tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Chas, i feel your pains, so here a list of my own recommendations:
>>>
>>>   1.  Get a maven-proxy in place, so when a central repo is down, you can
>>> switch to
>>>        a another mirror without user notice.  Set up maven-proxy is not that
>>> hard ;-)
>>>        check out archive list for all maven-proxy discussion.  Feel free to
>>> ping us for help
>>>
>>>   2.  Dont use snapshot,  cut a release yourself.  I fetch the source and
>>> post fix the version
>>>        with svn revision number.  For example, if I need a feature/bug fix
>>> in maven-assembly-plugin
>>>        version 2.2-snapshot,  then I build 2.2-${svn.revision} and deploy to
>>> your
>>>        internal repository that can serve by maven-proxy.
>>>
>>>   3.  Use pluginManagement to specify all plugins that used by your
>>> project'poms.
>>>        This get your team's build much faster since it does not have to go
>>> to maven-proxy to look
>>>        for daily update.
>>>
>>> This settup will prevent most of maven's uncertainties that others and I
>>> have gone thru
>>>
>>> Hope it helps
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/25/06, Chas Douglass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I really liked the idea of Maven2 when I heard about it, and when a
>>>> fellow developer used it successfully to build a small library for me, I
>>>> thought it was time to jump in.
>>>>
>>>> Three weeks later I have managed to accomplish very little on my
>>>> project, and I've converted four simple Ant build files into 7 Maven
>>>> pom.xml's that, by and large, don't work.
>>>>
>>>> THE IMPLEMENTATION PROBLEMS
>>>> To advertise Maven 2 as "stable" is, I believe, a disservice to
>>>> developers.  In my experience with it, "early beta" would be a kind
>>>> description.
>>>>
>>>> After struggling for the first week with broken links and dead-ends on
>>>> the web pages, I subscribed to the users list and found out there is a
>>>> "secret" book that documents much of Maven (ok, it's not really secret,
>>>> but should I really have to subscribe to a mailing list to find out
>>>> there is more documentation?).
>>>>
>>>> Of course, the secret book also documents features that aren't released
>>>> yet (wagon is what bit me).  Perhaps that's why it's secret.
>>>>
>>>> So now I'm using a "stable" product (incorporating several unreleased
>>>> and poorly documented snapshots) and what happens?  New releases of a
>>>> number of modules come out and everything breaks!  Have I specified a
>>>> release where I shouldn't have?  Have I NOT specified a release where I
>>>> SHOULD have?  Based on the limited traffic of the problem on the user's
>>>> list, I can only conclude that most people that use Maven are building
>>>> the plugins/modules and that very few people actually use it to build
>>>> applications.
>>>>
>>>> THE DESIGN PROBLEMS
>>>> But my real beef comes to design decisions that I think needs some
>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>
>>>>                        MAVEN HIDES TOO MUCH.
>>>>
>>>> It really is nice advertising to say "Look!  This 12 line pom.xml builds
>>>> this huge project".  But that's only if you happen to want to do EXACTLY
>>>> that ONE thing (which seems to be: build a Maven plugin).  The real
>>>> world is more complicated.  And as soon as I want to get more
>>>> complicated, Maven obliges me by getting WAY more complicated.  Most of
>>>> this complication is due to, I believe, hiding too much from me.
>>>>
>>>> Why is it that I'm expected, as a developer, to be able to download and
>>>> compile snapshots of plugins that aren't released yet (the jnlp plugin),
>>>> but I'm not expected to understand a FULL LIFE CYCLE build file?
>>>>
>>>> You have this wonderful archetype mechanism, why don't you use it to
>>>> make a pom.xml that actually includes information for everything it
>>>> does?  This would be self-documenting to developers.  Isn't the target
>>>> audience developers?
>>>>
>>>> I believe Maven is hiding the actual build structure, and that that is a
>>>> bad thing.
>>>>
>>>> I have used a number of open source projects where the configuration
>>>> file is used to document the product!  It is MUCH more enlightening to
>>>> see a comment with a commented-out section than, well, nothing.
>>>>
>>>> An example: I use Java 1.5.  The Maven default is 1.4.  Can I simply
>>>> search for "1.4" in the pom.xml and change it to "1.5".  Nooooo.  I have
>>>> to research which plugin actually sets this value, how it sets this
>>>> value, and add 9 lines to my pom.xml (assuming I did not yet have any
>>>> plugins configuration).
>>>>
>>>> THE CENTRAL REPOSITORY PROBLEM
>>>> I think the second major design problem is the central repository.  As
>>>> evidenced by the hardware failure at codehaus.org, this is a
>>>> single-point-of-failure that is simply unacceptable in real world build
>>>> situations.
>>>>
>>>> Not only does it represent a single-point-of-failure, it's not frozen.
>>>> I could never see my company using Maven unless we set up our own
>>>> version of the repository, and probably only if we used it exclusively,
>>>> since we require complete build reproducibility.  Relying on an external
>>>> organization to not make "secret" updates (as has been recently
>>>> discussed) is simply unacceptable.  I haven't tried to set up a
>>>> "central" repository, but from scanning messages on the user's list, it
>>>> sounds somewhat less than well defined.
>>>>
>>>> Personally (for open-source projects), I can probably use it, but there
>>>> is going to be a nagging suspicion when something breaks.
>>>>
>>>> So, for small users it represents a roadblock when the repository is
>>>> unavailable, and for large users it represents a reproducibility problem.
>>>>
>>>> CONCLUSION:
>>>> I think Maven is just "not ready for prime time".  I really want to like
>>>> it.  I think there are some great ideas, and clearly some really smart
>>>> people working on it.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this rant can be taken constructively.  I want projects like this
>>>> to succeed, I really do.
>>>>
>>>> And, please, I understand I'm one person.  This is MY view of attempting
>>>> to use Maven to build MY projects.  Perhaps I'm just not the target
>>>> audience.  Perhaps I'm just out in left field.  Perhaps I've just missed
>>>> the point completely.
>>>>
>>>> Chas Douglass
>>>>
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