On 13-Apr-08, at 8:52 AM, Olivier Dehon wrote:
How about handling of maven2 project releases? Does it integrate
nicely
with the release plugin?
There's nothing magical about configuring Hudson to fire off any set
of plugins with any goals. We do on demand builds and releases with
Hudson though this is more in the realm of a build server. We also
don't use the release plugin across the board because it's doesn't
work flawlessly with many SCMs other then subversion. So a lot of
times I know our clients must roll something of their own and Hudson
works great for this.
And also, one point of concern is the security and roles management
(who
can deploy/force builds/release per project?
There is authentication, but honestly I deal with some of the largest
IT environments and they care more that it works. We've worked around
any security concern putting Apache in front of it and use one of the
security modules. But I know from talking with James Dumay that
working with Redback is no great pleasure talking with him about his
experiences in trying to plug Redback into Crowd. Generally using
mod_authz_ldap with some groups and you can do what you need to do.
That's not to say that rbac like control isn't a good thing to have
but people prefer the general system work first, which Hudson does
better then anything else IMO.
I have been using Continuum for about a year without too many issues
and
it deals with all that nicely, does Hudson provide those features?
Reading from the doc links below, it appeared to me Hudson was less
well
integrated for Maven 2 projects?
Am I wrong?
The Maven integration is so-so but that's changing everyday. I know
from my vantage point Hudson is the only system I will provide
commercial support for at Sonatype because the battle is over. Hudson
won by making developers lives' easier. Kohsuke will go to no end to
make things easier for users. He wrote a JNI tool so that people using
ActiveDirectory wouldn't have to login all over the place. The other
very cool thing was the use of Winstone in creating the easiest way to
get a system up and running anyone has ever seen. These are the types
of things Kohsuke will do and it brings other really good developers
to the table. Tom is now doing some very cool things with Hudson for
automated artifact promotion and Continuum certainly doesn't do that
and if you ask a development organization if they wanted automated
promotion models or security, they would take the automated promotion
models. Along with all the other cool things in Hudson. Just that it
has a real plugin model makes a world of difference because it truly
is extensible like Maven.
What's important is that it continues to work which is why people are
flocking to Hudson. We actually use the freestyle builds with our
Maven projects and though that takes a few minutes to setup in the
long run it just works.
At any rate I guarantee you that inside 3 months Hudson will have the
best Maven integration of any CI/Build Server there is.
-Olivier
On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 16:34 +0200, Tom Huybrechts wrote:
Kohsuke keeps it simple, yet very powerful. You can have Hudson
installed and your first build running within minutes.
If you need customization, it is also incredibly easy to extend via
plugins.
Just try it, you'll never look back...
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Peter Horlock
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could you tell me your reason why you prefer hudson?
Thanks,
Peter
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Thanks,
Jason
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