Well, so far it seems that only the "cost-ware" enhancements from Rational
do add the visual JSF-editing. The have their own metadata-definitions.
And a message we got from their dev-lab seemed to imply, that they want
to keep their specs until JSF 2.0 has been finalized.

And their metadata-specs have not yet been publicily published... but seem
to be available.

regards
Alexander 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:58 AM
To: 'MyFaces Discussion'
Subject: RE: Providing component design-time meta data

Jesse,

sure JDeveloper supports that metadata spec,
sicne it's a proposal submitted by Oracle ;-)

But also, I am interessted to see, with what
the eclipse guys come up, when JSF is integrated
in "eclipse web tools platform project".

I guess they are also interessted in a community
solution.

Matthias

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:37 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: RE: Providing component design-time meta data
> 
> 
> I think myFaces could profit a lot and get ahead of the RI if 
> it supported this proposal already for "JSF 1.1" und not only 
> as planned for the RI by 
> "JSF 2.0".
> 
> Especially if JDeveloper already supports that metadata-set. 
> 
> IF in the final metadata-spec there would be changes, then the needed 
> changes would be the same as those for "ADF Faces", so there 
> could be a common migration team for the design time metadata...
> 
> If I had that feature I would have to consider a switch from 
> Eclipse to 
> JDeveloper... but I consider it worthwhile.
> 
> regards
> Alexander
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonas Jacobi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:08 PM
> To: myfaces-user@incubator.apache.org; 
> myfaces-dev@incubator.apache.org; Matthias Wessendorf
> Subject: Providing component design-time meta data
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have had an email exchange with Matthias about JSF, MyFaces and ADF 
> Faces and what level of design time support faces component authors 
> would, or could, expect from tools vendors such as (in my 
> case) Oracle's 
> JDeveloper.
> 
> A couple of months back we (the Oracle ADF Faces team) posted 
> a proposal 
> for design-time metadata for JSF at the JSFCentral website 
> (http://www.jsfcentral.com/articles/oracle_metadata_proposal.html).
> 
> Matthias thought it would be a good idea if I sent an email to this 
> mailing list asking for feedback on the proposal.
> 
> One of the concerns that we have is the lack of information 
> provided by 
> the JSF spec that defines what syntax to use for associating 
> additional 
> metadata with faces components. This lack of information can 
> force tools 
> vendors to come up with their own syntax to support 
> additional metadata 
> for custom components, which would force component authors to have to 
> deal with different solutions for different IDEs.  If there is a 
> standard in this area, component authors would be able to provide 
> metadata in one format that will work in all tools, and the end user 
> will be in the ideal situation of being able to pick the tool 
> they want 
> to use independently from the component set that best meets 
> their needs.
> 
> The goal would be to have a good and productive discussion about this 
> topic/proposal and try to come up with a solution that all parties 
> involved (component authors, tools vendors etc...) could 
> agree upon, and 
> then put it in front of the EG as a proposal from the community to 
> enhance JSF. As one of the leading JSF organizations comments and 
> contributions from MyFaces to this proposal are greatly appreciated.
> 
> Matthias please feel free to correct me if I interpret your email 
> incorrectly.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jonas
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> Jonas Jacobi
> Oracle JDeveloper - JSF & ADF Faces
> Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores
> 94065 California, US
> http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

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