Hi Edwin - Craig , it sort of becomes OT,
but I have been toying around
with Creator2 and it becomes amazing.
I created 3 data aware forms in no time.
But there are some issues which struck me.
a) EJB functionality for creating that stuff seems
to be not there
(EJB3 especially slowly becomes interesting
with session beans being the source as data providers)
b) What struck me, and had stricken me before is
that there is lots of functionality in base classes.
While this makes sense in the case that some rendering phase
stuff has been simplified and you have simplified access
to the managed bean handling, it roots into the com.sun hierarchy.
While this is not bad per se, is there the sourcecode to
all this available, and if yes under which license.
(Besides that I am not too much of a fan of pushing
functionality into base classes because you loose your one and only
possibility of inheritance, but that is more a personal issue)
But besindes that an amazing tool, I am really looking
forward to use it seriously one time in the future.
It definitely is a big contender for being the best JSF ide
currently available. (Version 2 I mean, I never was happy with version 1
due to its limitations)
What I really liked first was the user interface designer and
also the idea of having visual compound componentization via partial
forms was excellent.
I am really looking forward to see more of myfaces in this thing.
having more components can never hurt although the component set already
is impressive.
Werner
Edwin Goei wrote:
Martin Marinschek wrote:
It would certainly be great to have support like this.
Is there anything of this that can be generated? We have some
generating mechanism already in place, you'd need to hook up with
either Thomas or Manfred to find out how that works.
I've been working on getting some of the myfaces tomahawk components to
work in Creator. I'm an engineer on the Creator team and think it would
great to see more third party components work in the tool. So far I
have the t:inputCalendar sort of working and am working to get one of
the tree components to work but have run into problems. For one thing,
Creator expects that tag attributes are also component bean properties
which is not true of t:tree2. So some of the runtime code needs to be
changed in cases like this. There are other problems too though.
In any case, I am definitely interested in collaborating on work like
this. I've seen the anouncement on the Cherokee components which I'm
also interested in helping on.
I haven't yet looked at the generating mechanism you mentioned. I know
that Creator has its own set of components that also go through a
generation process. I'd be interested in finding out more on this. So
far, I've only looked at tomahawk.jar as a black box.
-Edwin
regards,
Martin
On 1/1/06, Laurie Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Craig McClanahan wrote:
On 12/31/05, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Legolas,
I haven't used Studio Creator w/ MyFaces' tomahawk (or sandbox). But
you should be able (as Alexandre pointed out) to *use* MyFaces stuff
in Creator.
Currently there is no *design time* support for Creator from our side.
Craig mentioned by time, that one of his fellow-workers blogged (or
just wrote a *normal* article) about howto write that Creator specific
design time support.
On that topic, I'm interested in working on the design time support
for the
MyFaces components, so that they run nicely in Creator, and
contributing it
back to the MyFaces project. We get this request (MyFaces
components with
Creator) from time to time on the Creator forums, and I've seen it
increasingly here as well. Would that be of interest to people here?
It'd be interesting to me :-) I thought about doing this myself but got
side tracked looking at ADF Faces, then switched to jDeveloper as it
already has this design time support for ADF Faces...
I'm probably going to switch back to Tomahawk instead of ADF Faces as
ADF apparently can't cope with a user agent with no Javascript
support :-(
If I do, I'll reevaluate jDeveloper vs. Creator and may well be willing
to help out with this.
L.
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