I wonder if a better idea is to address this from JSF or from the
Input behavior. This is not restricted to the subform. The problem is
that a component with a submitted value will not display a model value
if the model value changes.

This could be addressed by something like:

<tr:inputText value="#{bean.value}">
  <trs:modelChangeBehavior />
</tr:inputText>

The modelChangeBehavior would be a component that would clear the
submitted value & local value when the value of the
EditableValueHolder parent (requirement) changes between the end of
the APPLY_REQUEST_VALUES phase and the end of the INVOKE_APPLICATION
phase.

Note that this can be done in JSF 1.2 without a custom component by
using the <f:phaseListener /> tag. This may be the best solution.

How to implement:
1) Add <f:phaseListener />
2) Have that bound to a managed bean (request scope)
3) Have that managed bean implement PhaseListener
4) Use ANY_PHASE for the PhaseId
5) on APPLY_REQUEST_VALUES get the component (use component binding is
the best solution I guess)
6) get the value attribute & store it somewhere (in the bean probably best)
7) in INVOKE_APPLICATION, check the value and see if it changed. If
so, then clear the component

-Andrew


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Walter Mourão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will try the Andrew's workaround and/or try another way to accomplish what
> I want.
>
> I will defend my point of view because:
> 1 - PPR already allows perfectly one to avoid refresh some of the view, so
> it is possible to have control when it is not desired to refresh a subform;
> 2 - tr:outputText and tr:inputText should have a similar behavior when
> showing the property value.
>
> Thank you very much, guys.
>
> Walter Mourão
> http://waltermourao.com.br
> http://arcadian.com.br
> http://oriens.com.br
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andrew Robinson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> IMO, the user is submitting the subform, not the entire page,
>> therefore only the subform values should be sent & everything else
>> lost right? Perhaps a toggle option would be desired. I can see the
>> value of both approaches.
>>
>> Using two different tr:forms would theoretically work, but that is not
>> always easy to visually use. I would think that this would be
>> discussed before any thought of a fix could be made. It just seems
>> that there is no support for Walter's use case. I would think that it
>> would be possible to come up with both use cases of (1) preserving
>> current input components values that the client entered and (2) losing
>> the values to reflect changes to the model.
>>
>> Right now, JSF treats use case #2 very poorly and the standard
>> work-around is to clear the submitted value and local values from
>> EditableValueHolders when it is desired to reset their rendered state
>> to their model values.
>>
>> Maybe the subform is not the best place to fix this, I am not sure.
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Walter Mourão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Volker,
>> >
>> > I think the question is not if it was submitted or not but if all the
>> > visible references (inputText, outputText or everything else) of a
>> > property
>> > instance show its current value when the view is rendered.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Walter Mourão
>> > http://waltermourao.com.br
>> > http://arcadian.com.br
>> > http://oriens.com.br
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> why would you expect a not submited subform should loose changes made
>> >> on the client (the submitted value)?
>> >>
>> >> This is exact the behavior i would expect. And BTW how the tobago
>> >> subform
>> >> works.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>    Volker
>> >>
>> >> 2008/9/10 Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >> > Okay, I know the problem:
>> >> >
>> >> > The Subform allows the decode phase of all the children, regardless
>> >> > of
>> >> > what was clicked on. If an event was queued inside of the subform,
>> >> > but
>> >> > not during the apply phase, the form is considered "submitted". Only
>> >> > the submitted form will be validated & updated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, UIXInput (and UIInput) render the submitted value as the current
>> >> > value if it is set. Therefore:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) subform 1 is submitted
>> >> > 2) subform 1 & 2 are decoded, storing the submitted value ("" for the
>> >> > inputText in the 2nd subform)
>> >> > 3) subform 1 is validated
>> >> > 4) subform 1 is updated
>> >> > 5) render subform 1, inputText renders the "value" attribute
>> >> > 6) render subform 2, inputText renders the "submittedValue" attribute
>> >> > (blank string  - "")
>> >> >
>> >> > So to me this looks like a design flaw of the subform component. IMO,
>> >> > I would file a bug. Fixing it based on looking at the current design
>> >> > could be a pain in the rear. I wonder how the Tomahawk subform
>> >> > handles
>> >> > the same situation?
>> >> >
>> >> > As a workaround, you would have to find all components under
>> >> > non-submitted subforms that implement EditableValueHolder and set
>> >> > their submitted value to null.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Andrew
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Walter Mourão
>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Actually it looks like the issue isn't related with PPR. I just
>> >> >> tested
>> >> >> without PPR (see code below)  and had the same result:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" standalone="yes" ?>
>> >> >> <jsp:root xmlns:jsp="http://java.sun.com/JSP/Page"; version="2.0"
>> >> >>           xmlns:f="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core";
>> >> >>           xmlns:tr="http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad"; >
>> >> >>   <jsp:directive.page contentType="text/html;charset=utf-8"/>
>> >> >>   <f:view>
>> >> >>     <tr:document title="Apache Trinidad Blank Demo">
>> >> >>        <tr:form>
>> >> >>         <tr:subform id="sub1">
>> >> >>         <tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
>> >> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
>> >> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
>> >> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
>> >> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}"/>
>> >> >>         </tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>         </tr:subform>
>> >> >>         <tr:subform id="sub2">
>> >> >>         <tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
>> >> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
>> >> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
>> >> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
>> >> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}"/>
>> >> >>         </tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>        </tr:subform>
>> >> >>        </tr:form>
>> >> >>     </tr:document>
>> >> >>   </f:view>
>> >> >> </jsp:root>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Walter Mourão
>> >> >> http://waltermourao.com.br
>> >> >> http://arcadian.com.br
>> >> >> http://oriens.com.br
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Robinson
>> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Looks like you need to add partialTriggers to the components you
>> >> >>> want
>> >> >>> to update / refresh
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -A
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Walter Mourão
>> >> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Sorry the bump, but I'm in a dead end... Does anybody know a
>> >> >>> > workaround
>> >> >>> > ?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Walter Mourão
>> >> >>> > http://waltermourao.com.br
>> >> >>> > http://arcadian.com.br
>> >> >>> > http://oriens.com.br
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Walter Mourão
>> >> >>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi folks,
>> >> >>> >> I'm dealing with a strange behavior when using subforms and I
>> >> >>> >> reproduced
>> >> >>> >> it using the trinidad-blank example (from 1.0.9, but I found the
>> >> >>> >> problem
>> >> >>> >> first with 1.0.5).
>> >> >>> >> When executing an action from subform 1, only the inputs of the
>> >> >>> >> subform
>> >> >>> >> 1
>> >> >>> >> are refreshed and show the new value. Besides that, when I added
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> tr:outputText to the subform, pointing to the same backing bean
>> >> >>> >> property, it
>> >> >>> >> shows the new value, so the tr:inputText and tr:outputText (of
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> subform
>> >> >>> >> 2) shows differente values...
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> To reproduce using the trinidad-blank example:
>> >> >>> >> 1 - change HelloWorldBacking.send to:
>> >> >>> >>   public String send()
>> >> >>> >>   {
>> >> >>> >>     _name = _name.toUpperCase();
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>     return null;
>> >> >>> >>   }
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> 2 - add the file two_subforms.jspx with the content:
>> >> >>> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" standalone="yes" ?>
>> >> >>> >> <jsp:root xmlns:jsp="http://java.sun.com/JSP/Page"; version="2.0"
>> >> >>> >>           xmlns:f="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core";
>> >> >>> >>           xmlns:tr="http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad"; >
>> >> >>> >>   <jsp:directive.page contentType="text/html;charset=utf-8"/>
>> >> >>> >>   <f:view>
>> >> >>> >>     <tr:document title="Apache Trinidad Blank Demo">
>> >> >>> >>        <tr:form partialTriggers="sub1:button1 sub2:button1">
>> >> >>> >>         <tr:subform id="sub1">
>> >> >>> >>         <tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
>> >> >>> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
>> >> >>> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
>> >> >>> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
>> >> >>> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}" partialSubmit="true"/>
>> >> >>> >>         </tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>> >>         </tr:subform>
>> >> >>> >>         <tr:subform id="sub2">
>> >> >>> >>         <tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
>> >> >>> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
>> >> >>> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
>> >> >>> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
>> >> >>> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}" partialSubmit="true"/>
>> >> >>> >>         </tr:panelPage>
>> >> >>> >>        </tr:subform>
>> >> >>> >>        </tr:form>
>> >> >>> >>     </tr:document>
>> >> >>> >>   </f:view>
>> >> >>> >> </jsp:root>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> 3 - start the application, go to /faces/two_subforms.jspx, add a
>> >> >>> >> text
>> >> >>> >> in
>> >> >>> >> one of the inputs and click "press me".
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> This behavior happens with partialSubmit="false" too.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Please confirm if it is a bug (and I file a jira issue) and if
>> >> >>> >> it
>> >> >>> >> has
>> >> >>> >> an
>> >> >>> >> workaround.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Walter Mourão
>> >> >>> >> http://waltermourao.com.br
>> >> >>> >> http://arcadian.com.br
>> >> >>> >> http://oriens.com.br
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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