Hi Andrew,
Is there a way to force all components (editable or not) to be "refreshed"
from the bean values ?

Thanks in advance,

Walter Mourão
http://waltermourao.com.br
http://arcadian.com.br
http://oriens.com.br



On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Andrew Robinson <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wonder if a better idea is to address this from JSF or from the
> Input behavior. This is not restricted to the subform. The problem is
> that a component with a submitted value will not display a model value
> if the model value changes.
>
> This could be addressed by something like:
>
> <tr:inputText value="#{bean.value}">
>  <trs:modelChangeBehavior />
> </tr:inputText>
>
> The modelChangeBehavior would be a component that would clear the
> submitted value & local value when the value of the
> EditableValueHolder parent (requirement) changes between the end of
> the APPLY_REQUEST_VALUES phase and the end of the INVOKE_APPLICATION
> phase.
>
> Note that this can be done in JSF 1.2 without a custom component by
> using the <f:phaseListener /> tag. This may be the best solution.
>
> How to implement:
> 1) Add <f:phaseListener />
> 2) Have that bound to a managed bean (request scope)
> 3) Have that managed bean implement PhaseListener
> 4) Use ANY_PHASE for the PhaseId
> 5) on APPLY_REQUEST_VALUES get the component (use component binding is
> the best solution I guess)
> 6) get the value attribute & store it somewhere (in the bean probably best)
> 7) in INVOKE_APPLICATION, check the value and see if it changed. If
> so, then clear the component
>
> -Andrew
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Walter Mourão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I will try the Andrew's workaround and/or try another way to accomplish
> what
> > I want.
> >
> > I will defend my point of view because:
> > 1 - PPR already allows perfectly one to avoid refresh some of the view,
> so
> > it is possible to have control when it is not desired to refresh a
> subform;
> > 2 - tr:outputText and tr:inputText should have a similar behavior when
> > showing the property value.
> >
> > Thank you very much, guys.
> >
> > Walter Mourão
> > http://waltermourao.com.br
> > http://arcadian.com.br
> > http://oriens.com.br
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andrew Robinson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> IMO, the user is submitting the subform, not the entire page,
> >> therefore only the subform values should be sent & everything else
> >> lost right? Perhaps a toggle option would be desired. I can see the
> >> value of both approaches.
> >>
> >> Using two different tr:forms would theoretically work, but that is not
> >> always easy to visually use. I would think that this would be
> >> discussed before any thought of a fix could be made. It just seems
> >> that there is no support for Walter's use case. I would think that it
> >> would be possible to come up with both use cases of (1) preserving
> >> current input components values that the client entered and (2) losing
> >> the values to reflect changes to the model.
> >>
> >> Right now, JSF treats use case #2 very poorly and the standard
> >> work-around is to clear the submitted value and local values from
> >> EditableValueHolders when it is desired to reset their rendered state
> >> to their model values.
> >>
> >> Maybe the subform is not the best place to fix this, I am not sure.
> >>
> >> -Andrew
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Walter Mourão <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Volker,
> >> >
> >> > I think the question is not if it was submitted or not but if all the
> >> > visible references (inputText, outputText or everything else) of a
> >> > property
> >> > instance show its current value when the view is rendered.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Walter Mourão
> >> > http://waltermourao.com.br
> >> > http://arcadian.com.br
> >> > http://oriens.com.br
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> why would you expect a not submited subform should loose changes made
> >> >> on the client (the submitted value)?
> >> >>
> >> >> This is exact the behavior i would expect. And BTW how the tobago
> >> >> subform
> >> >> works.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>    Volker
> >> >>
> >> >> 2008/9/10 Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> >> > Okay, I know the problem:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Subform allows the decode phase of all the children, regardless
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > what was clicked on. If an event was queued inside of the subform,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > not during the apply phase, the form is considered "submitted".
> Only
> >> >> > the submitted form will be validated & updated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, UIXInput (and UIInput) render the submitted value as the
> current
> >> >> > value if it is set. Therefore:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1) subform 1 is submitted
> >> >> > 2) subform 1 & 2 are decoded, storing the submitted value ("" for
> the
> >> >> > inputText in the 2nd subform)
> >> >> > 3) subform 1 is validated
> >> >> > 4) subform 1 is updated
> >> >> > 5) render subform 1, inputText renders the "value" attribute
> >> >> > 6) render subform 2, inputText renders the "submittedValue"
> attribute
> >> >> > (blank string  - "")
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So to me this looks like a design flaw of the subform component.
> IMO,
> >> >> > I would file a bug. Fixing it based on looking at the current
> design
> >> >> > could be a pain in the rear. I wonder how the Tomahawk subform
> >> >> > handles
> >> >> > the same situation?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As a workaround, you would have to find all components under
> >> >> > non-submitted subforms that implement EditableValueHolder and set
> >> >> > their submitted value to null.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Andrew
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Walter Mourão
> >> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> Actually it looks like the issue isn't related with PPR. I just
> >> >> >> tested
> >> >> >> without PPR (see code below)  and had the same result:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" standalone="yes" ?>
> >> >> >> <jsp:root xmlns:jsp="http://java.sun.com/JSP/Page"; version="2.0"
> >> >> >>           xmlns:f="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core";
> >> >> >>           xmlns:tr="http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad"; >
> >> >> >>   <jsp:directive.page contentType="text/html;charset=utf-8"/>
> >> >> >>   <f:view>
> >> >> >>     <tr:document title="Apache Trinidad Blank Demo">
> >> >> >>        <tr:form>
> >> >> >>         <tr:subform id="sub1">
> >> >> >>         <tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
> >> >> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
> >> >> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
> >> >> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
> >> >> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}"/>
> >> >> >>         </tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>         </tr:subform>
> >> >> >>         <tr:subform id="sub2">
> >> >> >>         <tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
> >> >> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
> >> >> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
> >> >> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
> >> >> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}"/>
> >> >> >>         </tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>        </tr:subform>
> >> >> >>        </tr:form>
> >> >> >>     </tr:document>
> >> >> >>   </f:view>
> >> >> >> </jsp:root>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Walter Mourão
> >> >> >> http://waltermourao.com.br
> >> >> >> http://arcadian.com.br
> >> >> >> http://oriens.com.br
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Robinson
> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Looks like you need to add partialTriggers to the components you
> >> >> >>> want
> >> >> >>> to update / refresh
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> -A
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Walter Mourão
> >> >> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > Sorry the bump, but I'm in a dead end... Does anybody know a
> >> >> >>> > workaround
> >> >> >>> > ?
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > Walter Mourão
> >> >> >>> > http://waltermourao.com.br
> >> >> >>> > http://arcadian.com.br
> >> >> >>> > http://oriens.com.br
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Walter Mourão
> >> >> >>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Hi folks,
> >> >> >>> >> I'm dealing with a strange behavior when using subforms and I
> >> >> >>> >> reproduced
> >> >> >>> >> it using the trinidad-blank example (from 1.0.9, but I found
> the
> >> >> >>> >> problem
> >> >> >>> >> first with 1.0.5).
> >> >> >>> >> When executing an action from subform 1, only the inputs of
> the
> >> >> >>> >> subform
> >> >> >>> >> 1
> >> >> >>> >> are refreshed and show the new value. Besides that, when I
> added
> >> >> >>> >> a
> >> >> >>> >> tr:outputText to the subform, pointing to the same backing
> bean
> >> >> >>> >> property, it
> >> >> >>> >> shows the new value, so the tr:inputText and tr:outputText (of
> >> >> >>> >> the
> >> >> >>> >> subform
> >> >> >>> >> 2) shows differente values...
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> To reproduce using the trinidad-blank example:
> >> >> >>> >> 1 - change HelloWorldBacking.send to:
> >> >> >>> >>   public String send()
> >> >> >>> >>   {
> >> >> >>> >>     _name = _name.toUpperCase();
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>     return null;
> >> >> >>> >>   }
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> 2 - add the file two_subforms.jspx with the content:
> >> >> >>> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" standalone="yes" ?>
> >> >> >>> >> <jsp:root xmlns:jsp="http://java.sun.com/JSP/Page";
> version="2.0"
> >> >> >>> >>           xmlns:f="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core";
> >> >> >>> >>           xmlns:tr="http://myfaces.apache.org/trinidad"; >
> >> >> >>> >>   <jsp:directive.page contentType="text/html;charset=utf-8"/>
> >> >> >>> >>   <f:view>
> >> >> >>> >>     <tr:document title="Apache Trinidad Blank Demo">
> >> >> >>> >>        <tr:form partialTriggers="sub1:button1 sub2:button1">
> >> >> >>> >>         <tr:subform id="sub1">
> >> >> >>> >>         <tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
> >> >> >>> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
> >> >> >>> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
> >> >> >>> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
> >> >> >>> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}" partialSubmit="true"/>
> >> >> >>> >>         </tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>> >>         </tr:subform>
> >> >> >>> >>         <tr:subform id="sub2">
> >> >> >>> >>         <tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>> >>           <tr:outputText value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" />
> >> >> >>> >>           <tr:inputText label="Your name" id="input1"
> >> >> >>> >> value="#{helloWorldBacking.name}" required="true"/>
> >> >> >>> >>           <tr:commandButton id="button1" text="press me"
> >> >> >>> >> action="#{helloWorldBacking.send}" partialSubmit="true"/>
> >> >> >>> >>         </tr:panelPage>
> >> >> >>> >>        </tr:subform>
> >> >> >>> >>        </tr:form>
> >> >> >>> >>     </tr:document>
> >> >> >>> >>   </f:view>
> >> >> >>> >> </jsp:root>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> 3 - start the application, go to /faces/two_subforms.jspx, add
> a
> >> >> >>> >> text
> >> >> >>> >> in
> >> >> >>> >> one of the inputs and click "press me".
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> This behavior happens with partialSubmit="false" too.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Please confirm if it is a bug (and I file a jira issue) and if
> >> >> >>> >> it
> >> >> >>> >> has
> >> >> >>> >> an
> >> >> >>> >> workaround.
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >> Walter Mourão
> >> >> >>> >> http://waltermourao.com.br
> >> >> >>> >> http://arcadian.com.br
> >> >> >>> >> http://oriens.com.br
> >> >> >>> >>
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
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