Ashton, OK, feel free to go ahead and start a new thread about setting up something similar to tomitribe.com.
Starting that discussion would be a great contribution -- at some point and, sure, why not start that discussion now, such an entity might be useful. However, for setting up that entity too, you will need to spend time. Why not spend it where everyone else is focused on right now, in getting Apache NetBeans released? Thanks, Gj On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Ashton Hogan <ashtonho...@ymail.com.invalid> wrote: > Thanks Bertrand. I don't really participate in too many mailing lists to > be honest. Every time I do, it seems to end with me being too lazy to > understand other peoples ideas so I just tend to turn them down... > > I understand the Apache policy and I think it's really unfortunate. I've > seen so many apache projects die out over the years, probably due to this > policy (I hope I didn't just kill any sacred cows with this) > > The problem I see with donations, in any form, is that people don't feel > like their contribution will make a difference so they tend to not bother. > Whereas with a license, for example, I know that EVERYONE is buying one so > I feel like my money is going to a company that will grow and not just die > out tomorrow > > On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, 11:35:15 GMT, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Ashton Hogan > <ashtonho...@ymail.com.invalid> wrote: > > ...I've also tried begging for contributions, it got me nowhere, I > eventually just settled > >for paying for them instead which moved me forward way quicker... this is > just my > > personal experience... > > Paying people to contribute to Apache projects is a fantastic > contribution, but that cannot go through the Apache Software > Foundation as it's a basic principle that the Foundation *never* pays > for writing software for our projects. > > What you can do is contract people to work on things that you find > useful, keeping in mind that merging these contributions into Apache > NetBeans is subject to approval of the NetBeans PPMC, like any other > contribution. > > People have been running crowdfunding campaigns for their work on > Apache projects, for example, and that's great as long as the ASF can > stay totally out of it and see the results just as another > > contribution. > > > The example disclaimer at > https://community.apache.org/committers/funding-disclaimer.html > <https://community.apache.org/committers/funding-disclaimer.html>should > help explain that better. > > -Bertrand (incubation mentor for NetBeans) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Ashton Hogan > <ashtonho...@ymail.com.invalid> wrote: > > ...I understand the Apache policy and I think it's really unfortunate. > I've > > seen so many apache projects die out over the years, probably due to this > > policy... > > The Apache model is not for all projects but you might have missed *a > few* Apache projects which have been successful for years and support > multi-million dollar industries ;-) > > BTW https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache- > software-foundation-2018 > has more information on these things. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
