Oops. Honestly, I did read that web page earlier. But I swear I didn't see the 
c/c++ references. My apologies!

Sincerely,

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, at 13:18, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> No, there is not.
> 
> The closest we can get to anything like an update on "when" has already been 
> published, on the 11.3 features page:
> 
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb113/index.html
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:17 PM John G. Weed <nonsequi...@fastmail.com> wrote:
>> __
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I don't want to seem like the aging canker-sore, but is there an update on 
>> when c/c++ will be included in the NetBesns release, without requiring the 
>> 8.2 holdover?
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> John .G Weed
>> Cicero Systems, LLC <http://www.cicerosystems.us/>
>> *"Reason. Resolve. Respond"*
>> (571) 277-9998
>> 
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>> is, the more hated and mistrusted he'll become." *Marcus Tullius Cicero 
>> (106BC-43BC)
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>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, at 11:50, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> plugins.netbeans.org is down at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'd recommend to not spend our time on Darcula now that we have 
>>> FlatLaf.
>>> 
>>> If anyone disagrees, they're welcome to work on bringing Darcula into 
>>> Apache NetBeans GitHub.
>>> 
>>> Gj
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 5:45 PM Thomas Wolf <tjw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Excellent new release - thanks so much for the new software, especially 
>>>> the new L&Fs.
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking of L&Fs, the new FlatLaf Dark uses a very similar color palette 
>>>> to Darcula, my favorite L&F for the past few years. Nice! The only 
>>>> downside (so far) I notice is with tabs, as they use up more vertical 
>>>> space (and, possibly, horizontally too) than Darcula's. What is the status 
>>>> of Darcula? NB 11.3 offered to import it from my 11.2 installation, but it 
>>>> does not show up as a L&F option after I do so. Viewing the IDE log, I 
>>>> don't see any errors either?! I tried downloading the plugin again from
>>>> http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/62424/darcula-laf-for-netbeans
>>>> but it's no longer available. I tried building the code from GitHub but 
>>>> get build failures. It seems no longer maintained - the last update on 
>>>> GitHub was 3 years ago.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for all info,
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:05 AM Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> The Apache NetBeans team is pleased to announce the release of Apache
>>>>> NetBeans 11.3. Apache NetBeans is a full IDE for Java SE, Java EE, PHP
>>>>> and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apache NetBeans 11.3 is the third Apache NetBeans release outside the
>>>>> Apache Incubator and the third release of the new quarterly release
>>>>> cycle. The LTS release of the Apache NetBeans 11 cycle is Apache
>>>>> NetBeans 11.0. The 11.3 release has not been as heavily tested as the
>>>>> LTS release. Use 11.3 to access the latest features and to provide
>>>>> feedback for the next LTS release, scheduled for May 2020.
>>>>> 
>>>>> New & noteworthy features of the 11.3 release:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb113/index.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Downloads:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb113/nb113.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Feel free to share the good news!
>>>>> 
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>>>>> If you have some time to test and review Apache NetBeans Development build
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>>>>> Thanks everyone, for fixing / reporting issue, improving documentation.
>>>>> Special thanks to Neil and Geertjan for continuous help.
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