let me know please..

On 7/16/07, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I do -- I'll have something up somewhere in the next day or so.

-Patrick

On 7/16/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The wiki is probably the best place for the discussion.
>
> Patrick, if you have some material to put there it might be best for
> you to do so. Otherwise, I'll be happy to start the page.
>
> Craig
>
> On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
>
> > can we open a forum or something like that in openjpa website?
> > there are more people intrested in the topic to form a little group?
> >
> > On 7/16/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I'm not aware of any actual discussion going on now.
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >> On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
> >>
> >> > there is some actual discussion or we must start it now?
> >> >
> >> > On 7/16/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:07 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > ok.. i'm very intrested ..
> >> >> > in reply to craig russell.. it will be very good if you tell us
> >> >> more
> >> >> > about this discussion..
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, the process hasn't gotten to any level of detail. I
> >> expect that
> >> >> the EG will take what the major JPA implementations have done and
> >> >> standardize the functionality. Or they will take an abstraction
> >> like
> >> >> Patrick is talking about to produce a JPAQL string. There are
> >> >> advantages and disadvantages to both techniques.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think the best thing for us is to discuss on this list and
> >> then try
> >> >> to influence the standard.
> >> >>
> >> >> Craig
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 7/16/07, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Keep an eye open here... I'll post more about it soon.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Patrick
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 7/16/07, Mauricio Salatino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > so.. can i join to some team to talk about this and
> >> >> contribute? or
> >> >> >> > there is no team about this topic?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On 7/16/07, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I've done a certain amount of work on this topic with a
> >> >> couple of
> >> >> >> > > others, but haven't gotten anywhere final. I've got the
> >> >> >> beginnings of
> >> >> >> > > a query builder API + implementation that generates JPQL
> >> >> strings,
> >> >> >> > > which should be usable with any JPA implementation.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I'm working with the others who have been involved to
> >> figure
> >> >> >> out where
> >> >> >> > > to put the source for this; ideally, I'd like to put it
> >> >> somewhere
> >> >> >> > > other than in org.apache.openjpa, since it just generates
> >> >> >> JPQL, so can
> >> >> >> > > be used with any JPA provider.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > -Patrick
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > On 7/16/07, Mauricio Salatino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > do you know someone who has interest in this topic? i
> >> would
> >> >> >> like to
> >> >> >> > > > contribute with this.. but if you know someone i can join
> >> >> us..
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > On 7/16/07, Marc Prud'hommeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > > Mauricio-
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > I see what you mean. No, we currently do not have any
> >> >> >> simple way of
> >> >> >> > > > > building a query using an object-based API, a la
> >> TopLink's
> >> >> >> Expression
> >> >> >> > > > > classes.
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > It would probably be simple to create one that simply
> >> >> >> builds up the
> >> >> >> > > > > JPQL underneath, but to my knowledge no one has ever
> >> done
> >> >> >> this.
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > I know that i can do "select x from Entity x order by
> >> >> >> x.someField" but
> >> >> >> > > > > > i wanna know it there some methods in the API where i
> >> >> >> can use
> >> >> >> > > > > > Expressions like in TopLink Extensions.. to do the
> >> same
> >> >> >> ("select x from
> >> >> >> > > > > > Entity x order by x.someField") but in this way:
> >> >> >> > > > > > exp.addOrdering(exp.get("someField").ascending());
> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > again sorry for my english
> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > On 7/16/07, Marc Prud'hommeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >> Well, sorting is a standard part of the JPQL, which
> >> >> >> OpenJPA fully
> >> >> >> > > > > >> supports (e.g., "select x from Entity x order by
> >> >> >> x.someField"). See
> >> >> >> > > > > >> http://openjpa.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/
> >> >> >> > > > > >> manual.html#jpa_overview_meta_orderby
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >> Was there any specific functionality that you were
> >> >> >> looking for in the
> >> >> >> > > > > >> form of extensions? OpenJPA does extend the spec in
> >> >> >> many useful ways,
> >> >> >> > > > > >> all of which should be covered in the documentation.
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >> On Jul 16, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Mauricio Salatino
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > Hi to all!
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > this is my first question in this list...
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > I wanna know if openJpa have extra funcionalities,
> >> >> >> like query
> >> >> >> > > > > >> sorting?
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > (like toplink extensions)
> >> >> >> > > > > >> >
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > PS: sorry for my english!
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> >> >> > > > > >> > - Salatino Mauricio -
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >>
> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > --
> >> >> >> > > > > > - Salatino Mauricio -
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> >> > > >  - Salatino Mauricio -
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >> > > Patrick Linskey
> >> >> >> > > 202 669 5907
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >  - Salatino Mauricio -
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Patrick Linskey
> >> >> >> 202 669 5907
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > - Salatino Mauricio -
> >> >>
> >> >> Craig Russell
> >> >> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/
> >> products/
> >> >> jdo
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> >> >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > - Salatino Mauricio -
> >>
> >> Craig Russell
> >> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/
> >> jdo
> >> 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Salatino Mauricio -
>
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
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> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
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>
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