Larry,
There are two issues in your post (below). The first is a proposal that
has been absent from the current threads, that addresses one of the
recurring problems - how to get answers to unsubscribed posters -
transparently: Where a post comes from an unsubscribed user, add the
user's email to the "Reply-To" header. It has the salutary effect of
"Reply-to-All" without the drawbacks.
However, the reference to "the scenarios listed by 'leggewie' on Tue Feb
26 12:37:50 +0000 2008" is illuminating. I went back to the record and
found that 'leggewie' had two concerns: (a) gmane and (b) this scenario:
1. Unsubscribed poster A sends question to list.
2. B replies; by whatever agreed mechanism, the reply goes to A as
well as to the list.
3. C replies to B; how do we assure /that/ also goes to A?
It's a good question - one that may be solved only by Barbara's proposal
to send A the archive link. So it may not be a great loss that that
particular solution was not implemented.
The second issue is whether /any/ solution to a list problem can be
implemented - and, if so, how? Here the record complains that we are
waiting for an upgrade to CollabNet's Sourcecast (which uses ezmlm to
manage the list - a fact nowhere mentioned. I don't think it ever
addressed crucial questions:
- Why is an upgrade needed at all, if it's a matter of configuring ezmlm?
- Would the upgrade address a more comprehensive solution that
envisioned by the original RFE? [cf: scenario proposed by 'leggewie']
Vathsan never addressed the first question, and never committed on the
second. So I'm afraid it cannot be considered a serious effort at
resolving the problem. It certainly is not proof that the list problems
are insoluble.
John
In a message dated 2009.11.06 02:14 -0500, Larry Gusaas wrote:
Unfortunately the list is unlikely to be fixed anytime soon. The
people on the list do not have the power to fix it. The powers in
charge refuse to make changes. Here is a request for enhancement,
filed in 2003, to add a Reply-to: header with the unubscribed
posters address.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=18731
Opened: Wed Aug 27 13:01:00 +0000 2003
When an unsubscribed user sends a message, there is no easy way to
know this unless you take a look at the complete headers. This is
a bit time consuming. It would be nice if the Reply-To field also
contained the address of the unsubscribed sender.
In 2008 a solution was found that would be implemented after software
on CollabNet was updated and the issue has made marked 'Closed"
Additional comments from Srivathsan Rangarajan Wed Mar 19 10:49:54 +0000 2008
Hi
The requested feature will be made available when Openoffice gets
upgraded to CEE 5.0 release.
Regards,
Vathsan
Support Operations
In 2009 these comments were made:
Additional comments from millerp Thu Nov 5 23:26:39 +0000 2009
Can we have confirmation whether this upgrade will fix the
scenarios listed by 'leggewie' on Tue Feb 26 12:37:50 +0000 2008?
Additional comments from ejrenaud Thu Nov 5 23:29:36 +0000 2009
This is irrelevant. Sun refuses to upgrade OpenOffice.org onto a
newer version of CEE.
So a simple solution is possible if the CollabNet software is updated
but Sun refused to do so. Perhaps Oracle's purchase of Sun will improve
the situation, but I am not going to hold my breath.
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