> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:55 PM
> To: users@openoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [users] Table break between first and second rows?
> 
> At 13:37 14/12/2010 -0500, Kevin McLauchlan wrote:
> >A table extends over several pages. How do you tell it to 
> >split/break after the first content row, so that the table can begin 
> >on a page with TONS of space?  This is a problem I had before, but 
> >never solved. Encountered again in a 'new' doc.
> >
> >A two-column table insists on starting at top of page 20, leaving 
> >two lonely lines of body text at the top of page 19, and the rest of 
> >page 19 empty. The table has large-ish cells containing pictures, so 
> >two or three rows will fit on a page. The header row and first two 
> >content rows fit easily on page 20. This implies that the header and 
> >row 1 of content would fit easily on page 19, under the two lines of 
> >body text... and still leave empty space on that page. But the table 
> >refuses to break after the first row.
> >
> >I have tried Table Properties and individual cell properties, as 
> >well as properties of the text paragraphs within the cells. I can't 
> >find a way to tell my table that it is not merely OK, but actually 
> >desirable to start following the most recent body text, and to break 
> >conveniently between content row 1 and content row 2. Several 
> >reviewers have complained about the bad layout and incompetent use 
> >of page space.
> 
> In general, you will want to solve this problem for future 
> reference.  But if your problem is - as you suggest - that your final 
> copy is looking bad, there is surely a simple workaround which can be 
> applied at the last minute before publication.  Break the table into 
> two, so that the rows that can appear on the first page are in one 
> table and do so, and the rest are in a second table starting on the 
> new page, as you wish.  (To do this, put the cursor into the first 
> row of what you want to be the second table and go to Table | Split 
> Table (or right-click | Split Table).)  If necessary, either put a 
> manual page break between the two tables or else set the second's 
> text flow to page break before.
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker

Thank you, but I've also had it happen when the 
first content row is big enough by itself to push 
the second row to a following page. So there'd be 
nothing to break.

Here's an update.

I actually DO have one or two occasions where there's 
body text on a page, and then a table starts just 
after AND has two or more rows that live happily 
on that same page (no forced break). 

The visible differences in that NON-OFFENDING table 
are:
a) no heading row
b) only one column 
c) no picture in the first content row. 

It still has combinations of text and pictures 
in many cells/rows (this being a single-column 
table, a cell IS a row...)

I've even tried copying the "GOOD" table 
(along with its preceding text paragraph) 
to the other location in the document, 
adding a column, and then moving content of 
the "BAD" table into the copy of the "GOOD" 
table. 

Eventually, the problem comes back. 

Argh. 

I have not exhausted all possible combinations 
of content and structure (one column, two 
columns, heading row, no heading row, picture 
in first content row, no picture in first 
content row...) while saving the doc and closing 
OOo after each change, then reopening to see 
when/where it breaks. 

Maybe there's a critical vertical size of cell 
(or cell content) that generates a pre-table 
page break. That imaginary feature might or 
might not interact with the page layout. 

I suppose I could start shrinking pictures 
(and saving and exiting and coming back) to 
see if I could detect a threshold.

 - kevin
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