Yes John. Your reasoning is correct. I doubt however that the choice for the display of hidden files can be set by shared environment variables. I actually use only the standard shared variables and never add new ones as I think it better to use exclusively the variables local to an application. Yes I filed the request and I'm pleased with your reply which shows that sensible discussions can be done on the OOo user list. Till the next time Joep
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 17:04 -0700, john geldman wrote: > Hmm. Could be, I've been wrong before. My Linux systems are > double-booted and in the middle of other "stuff" at the moment, so I > won't be able to provide examples to argue or agree for a bit. > > Your example of Evolution is a good use-model. > > While most apps do have their own environment, most also share system > environment variables. That is why many so environment variables get > set in the .cshrc/.bashrc/.profile/... Apps tend to have their own > configuration spaces and to be sensitive to system environment > variables and sensitive to kernel options. Like any over complicated > system, there are "Too Many Options" (tm) options. > > On the other hand, you have already made the best of the "opportunity" > to better state your use-model request for the users mail list > archives. You certainly can also follow CPH's feature request steps, > so maybe it is already mission-accomplished and further discussion on > this forum isn't going to accomplish much for the world of OOo users. > > > > On 10/9/05, J.L. Blom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John, I think you're in error. > > E.g. in Evolution, when you want to attach a file to a message the > > directories are default presented without the hidden directories. Using > > the right button of the mouse gives a popup window where can be chosen > > to display hidden directories. > > It is the application that sets the switch, not the windowmanager. As > > Unix user for over 15 years I am rather familiar with the command line > > syntax of the different shells and with window managers. An application > > in Unix has his own environment. It must therefore explicitly, either in > > the properties or options settings or else in individual actions (see > > Evolution) have a command to make hidden files (and directories) to be > > presented as default is hidden off. > > Linux is a completely different OS from Windows as it is multiuser and > > multitasking with a completely different memory and file management > > (e.g. no registry structure although the graphic shell GNOME mimics it > > somewhat) therefore your referral to the Windows way of file management > > has no relevance for Linux. I will surely confess that my Windows > > experience is very limited but in Unix I'm reasonably experienced and > > think therefore that my remark is relevant. > > > > Joep > > > > On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 14:11 -0700, john geldman wrote: > > > On 10/9/05, G. Roderick Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 17:55 +0200, J.L. Blom wrote: > > > > > I just discovered an annoying omission in OOo2.0 RC1. > > > > > I want in Linux to approach hidden directories (directories starting > > > > > with a dot (e.g. .evolution). However, the users guide doesn't give > > > > > any > > > > > information (neither Help). Is it not possible??. Than I think its > > > > > value > > > > > - for Linux users - is seriously diminished as many files (a.o. > > > > > databases and address databases0 are most often stored in hidden > > > > > directories. As Linux has a decent directory mechanism there must be > > > > > an > > > > > explicit switch, preferably in the options menu, to set the display of > > > > > hidden files on or off. > > > > > In my opinion it is a serious bug. > > > > > Joep > > > > > > > > If you are serious, please enter an issue into Issue > > > > Tracker as this is the best way to have problems such as this evaluated. > > > > > > > > If you haven't already registered, do the following: > > > > > > > > 1. To file an issue you must register with OOo by clicking the > > > > My Pages tab and selecting the Register link > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join > > > > 2. Fill in your information > > > > 3. Reply to the confirmation email that will be sent to the address > > > > you provided. > > > > 4. Once you have confirmed, go to www.openoffice.org again > > > > 5. And click on the "My Pages" tab from which you can file and find > > > > issues. > > > > > > > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It is important that you file > > > > any examples with the issue to ensure your need is understood. > > > > -- > > > > PLEASE KEEP MESSAGES ON THE LIST. > > > > OpenOffice.org Documentation Co-Lead > > > > http://documentation.openoffice.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joep > > > > > > I'm a little confused about why you are asking about basic Linux > > > capabilities in an application. This is typically a user or window > > > manager configuration option. > > > > > > Also, I'm a little bemused by your windows approach to linux. The > > > first thing two things I do in windows systems is to have it tell me > > > the whole names of files (not hide the extension) and not hide > > > directories. I guess I am a "power-hungry" user. > > > > > > The closest equivalent in Linux to hidden directories are those that > > > begin with an "." > > > These will only be displayed with the "ls -a" CLI command. The ls > > > command can be easily aliased to include or not include this parameter > > > (aliasing syntax changes with different shells such as bash, csh, sh, > > > ...). > > > > > > Your window manager (KDE or GNOME or ...) will have options for a such > > > a switch for its graphical file manager application. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
