On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 13:07 -0600, Craig Herman wrote:
> OK.  I'll try.  But I don't have any estimate of when I will finish.
> 
> Craig
> 

Thanks.

In the meantime I have asked the project which maintains the thesaurus
the following:


> Any chance a bowlderized or cleaned up thesaurus existing now. I ask
> because a school teacher has encountered a problem with the thesaurus
> that is distributed where the f-word in its many forms is offered as a
> synonym. 
> 
> Failing that how to clean up easily?


Hope we get a definitive answer.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: G. Roderick Singleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: users@openoffice.org
> Cc: Craig Herman
> Subject: RE: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus
> 
> 
> Craig,
> 
> For an interim solution, I suggest that you remove/dusable the thesaurus at
> least until you can edit the file and get a working one.  You can do this by
> removing the line 
> THES en US th_en_US_v2
> from <wherever>/openoffice.org2.0/share/dict/ooo/dictionary.lst
> 
> On my system, simply commenting out the line and restarting OOo is
> sufficient.
> 
> Good luck on Bowlderizing.
> 
> Do try this by editing both th_en_US_v2.dat   and th_en_US_v2.idx for
> your list of banned words.
> 
> If you are successful, perhaps you could donate these to the project so
> others may avoid the problem you are having. If you like I will create an
> issue to which you can attach the files.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 11:17 -0600, Craig Herman wrote:
> > Type "mishandle" and look at the fourth term from the bottom.  It 
> > gives "f**k up" as a synonym.  That was the real problem that I had.  
> > On the other hand, if you type "f**k up" and look up a synonym in the 
> > thesaurus, it gives good suggestions as alternates.  I guess that 
> > makes it sort of even. I checked MS Word.  If you misspell "f**k", it 
> > marks it as incorrect.  If you look up "f**k" or "f**k up", it gives 
> > no suggestions. What would be better is to not give "f**k up" as a 
> > synonym, but to give synonyms for "f**k up" if asked. After checking 
> > further, look up "motherf**ker" and see what you get.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Volke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:15 AM
> > To: users@openoffice.org
> > Subject: RE: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus
> > 
> > 
> > The only instance I'd see this being an issue for a school would be if 
> > you typed in botch and you got f*ck up suggested as a synonym.  I 
> > checked and in fact f*ck up is not suggested at all.  The only 
> > instance in which it comes up is if the user types it, and in that 
> > case it suggests synonyms.  Why shouldn't the software offer the kids 
> > nice alternatives to otherwise nasty words?  Isn't this your original 
> > concern anyway?  If the kids already know the word enough to spell it 
> > correctly, then I think censoring the dictionary is going to be 
> > fruitless.  That's my two cents.  Good luck with the distribution, 
> > personally I hope more schools begin using OpenOffice as I think they 
> > can benefit the most from its use.
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > >>> "Craig Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/18/05 8:04 AM >>>
> > I'm not necessarily trying to be a censor. What I was really concerned 
> > about was being forced to remove OpenOffice.org from the computers in 
> > my classroom because of those words.  I looked them up in a school 
> > dictionary and they were there also,  so I doubt it will be an issue.  
> > However, I still think a user should have the ability to remove or add 
> > words and/or phrases from the dictionary and thesaurus if they want 
> > to.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wangshanpo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:29 AM
> > To: users@openoffice.org 
> > Subject: Re: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus
> > 
> > 
> > Martin S wrote:
> > > 2005/11/18, Craig Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >   
> > >> The word f**k and the expression "f**k up" are in the dictionary 
> > >> and
> > 
> > >> thesaurus. Is it possible to remove these? I have tried, but I have
> > 
> > >> been unsuccessful. I would like to use these at my school, but with
> > 
> > >> these words in the dictionary, I don't think that will be possible.
> > >>
> > >>     
> > >
> > > Interesting.
> > > My sons school has a policy against profanity in school. However, no
> > 
> > > one has ever come up with the idea of censoring the Word
> > dictionaries.
> > > Children pick up these words weather you like or not, so it's fairly
> > 
> > > pointless in trying to censor dictionaries. And if they still use
> > them
> > > in texts, they might as well spell them correctly.
> > >
> > > Personally I'd be very reluctant to start practicing censorship - 
> > > you
> > 
> > > never know where it ends.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Martin S
> > >
> > >   
> > Craig asked a very simple function/operation related question but see
> > how it ferreted out those whose moral judgement is evidently better than 
> > the rest.
> > Intriguing!
> > 

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