On 03.04.2006 15:04 UK Time, Rod Engelsman wrote:
Grzegorz Wiktorowski wrote:
Personally, I've never noticed this problem, as I've set the
properties of
g.c.o. questions under news.gmaine,org to "Delete messages more than [7]
days old", which works. Oddly, I don't find any option "Remove expired
article."
You've never noticed this problem becuse we are taking about 2 different
things.
A few word of explanation. There are newsserver that remove messages
on the
server side, for example MS msnews.microsoft.com keeps 60 days. After 60
days the MS newsserverremoves the expired message and notifies the
newsreader to remove the same message from the local base. IBM newsserver
news.software.ibm.com keeps 500 days. An some newservers are set to
keep all
messages the while life.
When you set "Delete messages more than [7] days old" in Thunderbird, it
removes messages 7 days old only from the local base. But there is no
real
synchronization between the newsserver and the newsreader.
It's even worse than that with gmane. They're just broken and judging
from your other post they have no intention of fixing it.
From what I can tell, they keep about 14 days worth of posts on their
server. The problem is that they keep _all_ their old headers active. So
just tell TB to delete all posts older than 14 days. If you really want
older posts than that, then:
1. Subscribe, download the newest 500 or so posts.
2. Set TB to delete posts older than 14 days.
3. Shut down and restart. This will get rid of the older "empty" posts.
4. Now set TB to never delete old posts (or whatever time span you wish)
*and* to download posts for offline use.
Basically, you just create your own local mirror.
Hi Rod,
thanks for your detailed advice.
I keep my own local mirror for the secure Mozilla support groups (which
aren't archived online), but since the OOo newsgroup archives are
searchable online, I don't necessarily want to create my own local
mirror, and I am happy with the workaround of setting a retention time
limit in Thunderbird, although in the long term it would, of course, be
nice if the problem could be fixed at the Gmane end.
--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk
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