klaus schmirler wrote:
I appreciate your efforts trying to explain the difference - and making
a comment re further ahead in the discussion, I can very well imagine
e.g. a tree opening from the context menu, starting with the names of
page, paragraph, character &c. styles and then branching out to the
nitty gritty, as long as it shows _everything_.
But from your description, I would expect the opposite behaviour of WP
and OOo in this experiment:
Write two lines of anything, bolden one of them (whether by defining a
character style or with the button up on the menu doesn't make a
difference). Now select a couple of letters from one line; push them
into the other. And vice versa.
Wordperfect behaves symmetrically: the new letters in the normal line
are bold, and the new letters in the bold line are normal. In OOo, both
end up bold, which tells me that only Bold is an attribute, and that
there is simply nothing set in the normal line: not every character has
the full set of attributes.
My thinking or OOo's way of working, which is wrong?
Let's assume that your original paragraph is in the Default paragraph
style. Select the entire paragraph and press Ctrl-Shift-Space to remove
all direct formatting.
Now press F11, select the "Default" paragraph style, right-click, select
"Modify", and under the fonts tab change the style of the paragraph font
to bold.
The entire paragraph now becomes bold.
Try the experiment again. The opposite now occurs. A bit of normal text
copied and pasted into the middle of some bold text retains its normal
attribute, but a bit of bold text pasted into the middle of the normal
text loses its boldness. Now the results of both pastings end up normal.
So by your logic Normal weight is now an attribute and Bold is not.
It seems that what happens in both cases, when two sets of attributes
collide on pasting, the underlying paragraph set of attributes is the
one that yields.
I'm not sure whether this is a bug or not ... but it is certainly not
intuitive, at least not to me. I don't like it.
I notice that more special attributes like color are retained, as I
would expect. It looks like it is only bold and italic that act strangely.
However, I don't have much trouble with it, probably because I've gotten
used to using Paste Special when attempting to paste formatted text, and
so have ceased to notice this weird behavior.
I have memories of OOo Writer acting weirdly in the past when I was
first using it and sometimes attempted to paste formatted text. But I
just cursed it, fixed the problem manually, and moved on, having no time
to consider carefully what was wrong.
Probably it is from such incidents that I've picked up the habit of
using Paste Special and specifically choosing whether I want the text to
be pasted with its formatting or to take on the formatting of the text
into which it is pasted.
Jallan
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