NoOp wrote:
On 05/07/2008 11:59 AM, James Knott wrote:
mike scott wrote:
On 6 May 2008 at 17:15, James Knott wrote:

Jerry Feldman wrote:
...
It was 1.5 stop bits back in 1976 when we were integrating a 1200bps
modem into our POS system. I'm not talking about Baudot code. In any
...
It was never 1.5 stop bits for ASCII devices. It was either 2 stop bits at 110 b/s or 1 at 300 & above. It wouldn't hurt anything, other than
I'm not sure that's correct. I'm pretty sure it was an option (1, 1.5, 2) on VAX serial ports.

The option may have been available, as it was on the 8250 UART used in

I've a few of those, and 8251 USART's out in the garage... I know the
8251 could be configure to allow 1.5 stop bits, can't recall if the 8250
also had this option. However, 1.5 was only used for characters with 5
information bits, so it wouldn't apply to standard/modern modems anyway.



On the 8250 and later, you specified the number of data bits and stop bits separately, so it was possible to have any combination of data bits and stop bits. However, in all my years of experience with working with this stuff, I have never, not once, seen 1.5 stop bits used with 8 bit codes. It's always been either 1 or 2 stop bits, though 1.42 and 1.5 were common with 5 bit codes. I've also never seen a UART that could do 1.42 stop bits, which is found only on mechanical devices. A UART would be configured for 1.5 stop bits, which isn't much of a difference from 1.42. So, while it is technically possible to configure for 8 data bits and 1.5 stop bits, it's never, to my knowledge, ever been done in production systems, as it doesn't comply with any of the standard codes. As I mentioned in another note, this is one area, having worked for 36 years in data communications and computers, that I have a *LOT* of experience. In fact, when I designed & built that 8 port serial card I mentioned earlier, I found a bug in the 8250 that National Semiconductor didn't know about. I even got a nice letter from them for finding it.



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