Hi Pavel, We are working on giving OpenVZ users an ability to build own vz templates.
The problem is typical for switch from closed source - build scheme for them is not suitable for wide use by anybody. So, we are defining new, simpler, scheme for templates creation. First step is done - https://src.openvz.org/projects/OVZT/repos These are templates' "spec" repositories, which defines rules of a template creation. Next step is to prepare a guide, how to build template out of such repository. So, please, be patient - and give us some time. Thank you, Dima. On 30/06/15 13:26, "Pavel Odintsov" <pavel.odint...@gmail.com> wrote: >Scott, I could ask you one simple thing. Please read this ticket >https://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3227 and share your >experience here. > >If you think it's OK to offer _official_ templates with bunch of >security issues I could agree with you and revoke all my complains. > >But I'm really sure about inadmissibility of issues like this. > >That's why I really interested in completely open source _automatic_ >template build system for my company. > >On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Pavel Odintsov ><pavel.odint...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thank you so much for support :) >> >> Really, I want to do more with OpenVZ and really want to get new >> features from RHEL7 kernel. >> >> And I have full understanding of this very long and deep process. And >> we need so huge time (one or two years) for stable RHEL7 release. >> >> Thats why I want to build "test env" in my Company ASAP for help >> OpenVZ team with bug hunting and load testing. >> >> But I can't do it without documentation. That's my main complain and >> main idea of all this speech. >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Kristian Marcroft <k...@kwm-web.info> >>wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think you are personally expecting to much in to short time. >>> Actually I think that most of the stuff shared publicly is not >>> finished yet. But you now have the chance to at least look into some >>> stuff Odin is doing and maybe even the community can help to create >>> documentation. >>> >>> You will also have to respect, that Odin still has a commercial >>> interest behind all of this. >>> >>> Basically nothing is changing. >>> >>> The Kernel base of OpenVZ has always been the base for Virtuozzo (or >>> the other way round?) >>> >>> Now Odin is starting to release some tools and more features. >>> Instead of bulling them to do more, you should remember that as far as >>> I know there are only limited resources provided by Odin and most >>> contributions are actually also done in their free time. >>> >>> Currently, the stable version is CentOS 6 with RHEL-6 based Kernel. >>> You can stick with that and just wait until the rest matures. >>> >>> I do understand you want to use a recent OS such as CentOS 7, but that >>> is not ready for use yet. That's what one would call development in >>> progress I guess :) >>> >>> So just give it all a bit more time and all will be fine. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kristian >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 30.06.2015 um 11:01 schrieb Pavel Odintsov: >>>> Very hard to run something now... So much "if" / "should" and >>>> "it's not working yet". >>>> >>>> I prefer wait until time "when everything will be work". >>>> >>>> Actually there are no profit from open sourcing project at this >>>> time. Because so much "heritage" from Commercial world which I do >>>> not like at all. >>>> >>>> I do not want to be part of "test monkeys for commercial project". >>>> >>>> I want to be part of community and I want to contribute to >>>> community.But it's real nightmare because I'm from another world. >>>> And "closed CloudLinux" means for me "keep away from this project, >>>> it's not true open source". >>>> >>>> Finally, I really appreciate moving to open source. But I do not >>>> like steps of Odin company and community manager here. >>>> >>>> 1) They offer test kernels with no sources. I.e. there are no way >>>> to build RHEL7 kernel manually from open code 2) They offer closed >>>> source distribution with bunch of crap instead 3) They put bunch of >>>> code to src.openvz.org but this code lacks os docs, manuals and any >>>> help! We tried to build few tools for few weeks and it's really >>>> HARD challenge. 4) They offer "Debian 8 templates" but do not >>>> provide any references "How you can build template manually". >>>> >>>> Odin, folks. If you put code to somewhere in Internet do not mean >>>> "doing open source". >>>> >>>> Open source is: >>>> >>>> 1) Share ideas 2) Offer help and documentation 3) Mind about >>>> community, not about commercial success. >>>> >>>> I really can spent my time and my engineers time for doing >>>> Virtuozzo better but you do not hear me. Unfortunately. Very sad. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Kristian Marcroft >>>> <k...@kwm-web.info> wrote: Hi, >>>> >>>> CentOS 7 should be supported once Virtuozzo 7 is released. As far >>>> as I know Odin is porting their OpenVZ/Virtuozzo patches to the >>>> RHEL 7 Kernel at the moment. >>>> >>>> Currently they use RHEL 6/Cloud Linux 6 as a base. This will >>>> change with Virtuozzo 7. This is what the Versions actually mean. >>>> >>>> Regards, Kristian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 30.06.2015 um 10:29 schrieb Pavel Odintsov: >>>>>>> Thanks for answer Kristian! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But my question about another case. I can't find CentOS 7 >>>>>>> here. From my opinion it means I can't send bugs to bugzilla >>>>>>> because "you have used not recommended distribution". It's >>>>>>> normal practice for big vendors and I really scary about it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Kristian Marcroft >>>>>>> <k...@kwm-web.info> wrote: Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that page indicated it is recommended, not it's required? >>>>>>> You should be able to use CentOS as an OS? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think that will change. I do think that Odin will >>>>>>> actually give out recommendations and that Odin will support >>>>>>> their recommendations in their commercial Product Virtuozzo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, Kristian Marcroft >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 30.06.2015 um 09:57 schrieb Pavel Odintsov: >>>>>>>>>> Actually I want to make feature request for ability to >>>>>>>>>> run open source OpenVZ on normal open source distro >>>>>>>>>> like CentOS or Debian where I can be sure about really >>>>>>>>>> _clean_ code from viruses and backdoors. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Pavel Odintsov >>>>>>>>>> <pavel.odint...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hello, folks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have just found this article: >>>>>>>>>>> https://openvz.org/OpenVZ_with_upstream_kernel >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And I enough upset with it because I need to install >>>>>>>>>>> Commercial Paid Software (CloudLinux) for running >>>>>>>>>>> open source OpenVZ. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From my point of view, it's not OK to ask for license >>>>>>>>>>> for external license. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I could buy something from Odin/Parallels but I do >>>>>>>>>>> not want to buy additional tools from another company >>>>>>>>>>> which is completely not related with OpenVZ project. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That's all. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ Users >>>>>>>> mailing list Users@openvz.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Users mailing >>>>> list Users@openvz.org >>>>> https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1 >>> >>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVkmeKAAoJECFUP413Yj6jaTkH+QGiwPDNowd2BZXyLSb79UyB >>> sgPUN+VyIfU8F21XFQBWzYkHZSLniaTMQb22CDW5S6EROoaLKUyEyGzcwLGNCl7U >>> XJsExQZzOHZu/SOFLGsTZ/pOrdi/8IbrYqIP9OoqJMWJgj7mHTVv5eSdGMptnR/v >>> D4zDSYHEaptVKeTPConeyyv/yLpWWKUXu2fWLQ01hKotqC/OV611J6PBKKnB7stM >>> iyphjNHgOkWSWhagVVvkrUXgURd51tq9+zmyZr1s/v5pAIrgn5X8CkQ3Liu2dpEE >>> gLk15RMkAZiEhoKOMVcXYfc/eggx6M2d8fvdyZmaLeRDO+CJcVEaUF7zoihKw6k= >>> =yxHH >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@openvz.org >>> https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov > > > >-- >Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov >_______________________________________________ >Users mailing list >Users@openvz.org >https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://lists.openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users