----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Helgenberger" <daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de> > To: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>, "Livnat Peer" <lp...@redhat.com> > Cc: users@ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:17:20 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [RFI] oVirt 3.6 Planning > > > On 15.09.2014 15:23, Itamar Heim wrote: > > On 09/15/2014 04:10 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: > >> Hello Livnat, > >> On 15.09.2014 14:46, Livnat Peer wrote: > >>> On 09/15/2014 03:15 PM, Daniel Helgenberger wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> +1 for the iso uploader, > >>>> +1 for hostusb in UI > >>>> +1 EL 7 (on the roadmap anyway?) > >>>> > >>>> With hostusb some more host-dev virtualization could be added. Top of my > >>>> list is: > >>>> - SR-IOV > >>>> - NPV > >>>> - VFIO > >>>> > >>>> These things could be handled on cluster level - hypervisors need to > >>>> have the same hardware configuration anyway. > >>>> > >>>> Also, I think its time to add official support for OpenVswitch? > >>>> > >>> Are you looking for a specific functionality that is available via > >>> OpenVswitch (=OVS)? > >>> also we have the Neutron integration where we use OVS. > >> I think its sufficient to say OVS is a 'real' modern switch while plain > >> ol' linux bridge is not (so much any more). Of curse, maybe implementing > >> other things like macvtap and / or SR-IOV achieves just the same thing > >> (at least for me, as I then mange vlans/trunks and QoS, Spanning Tree > >> ect. on my switches). > >> > >> I know you can point on OpenStack integration because you get those > >> features for 'free' (see Ceph). But what about users like me who do not > >> wish / can / should implement the whole OpenStack but rather want to run > >> 'plain' oVirt? > > that's why we added in 3.5 a standalone, pre-configured, neutron virtual > > appliance so you won't need "all of openstack"? > Witch is certainly nice to have. But this is not the point. IMHO storage > and networking are core functions for a virtualization platform. And > such a platform will need to reflect the the progress made in general > and in particular by the hypervisor monitor (libvirt). > I am no developer and can hardly estimate the coding effort and do not > want you to redo already working things. But at least in case of Ceph > there is the API from libvirt, this is true for all the other things I > mentioned, in my naive view they are all variations of the hostusb hook. > Certainly I can deploy OVS myself and manage it from CLI, witch is what > I do now.
Could you share how you set it up, i.e., how you map networks to ovs and everything that you configure? Depending on the size, making a vdsm configurator for it would not be that difficult (and the fine tunning could come with hooks). > > But in the end, I would very much like to do this via one integrated > GUI, this is why I deploy oVirt (witch I see as a open source > counterpart to EXi. Esp. the concept of one engine for management - but > not critical for running my VMs.) > Please allow me a 'heretic' question, will oVirt make itself obsoleted > in the future because all of the core functionality is moved to an > external provider? Is it better for my use case (small/medium business > and not in the telco sector) to deploy OpenStack in the first place and > not to use oVirt at all? ATM OpenStack seems to me like the literal > sledgehammer to crack a nut. > > Thanks, > <http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/to+take+a+sledgehammer+to+crack+a+nut.html> > > > > >> I think this might not be a desirable way to add / modernize features as > >> it creates a huge overhead (at least in my use case, medium business. I > >> did this once for Glance 'just' to get a way to more easily handle > >> import / export of image files, now I need to implement Neutron 'just' > >> to get OVS?). > >> > >> Don't get me wrong - OpenStack integration is a wonderful thing witch > >> leaves room for expansion - later on. > >> > >> Thanks! > >>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> On 12.09.2014 14:23, Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>>> With oVirt 3.5 nearing GA, time to ask for "what do you want to see in > >>>>> oVirt 3.6"? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Itamar > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Users mailing list > >>>>> Users@ovirt.org > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>>> > > > > -- > Daniel Helgenberger > m box bewegtbild GmbH > > P: +49/30/2408781-22 > F: +49/30/2408781-10 > > ACKERSTR. 19 > D-10115 BERLIN > > > www.m-box.de www.monkeymen.tv > > Geschäftsführer: Martin Retschitzegger / Michaela Göllner > Handeslregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg / HRB 112767 > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users