Thanks very much Gordon. I have had some previous endeavours with the
dispatch router (in fact I started there before switching to the broker)
and will return to that plan of attack.

I think we will still need brokers in this topology in order to queue
messages for offline clients, otherwise the router would be the better
option. I look forward to future releases with the improved broker
integration!

/Chris



2014-03-28 15:52 GMT+00:00 Gordon Sim <g...@redhat.com>:

> On 03/28/2014 01:36 PM, Chris Richardson wrote:
>
>> Ah, now we are really opening Pandora's box! ;)
>>
>> The term "client" here is actually quite a simplified term and actually
>> refers loosely speaking to a system managing a number of products on
>> that... client. Both the management system and the products should be
>> individually identifiable and addressable over AMQP; it should also be
>> possible to address them in groups. Furthermore the client system will
>> typically be connected over an unreliable network link and the messaging
>> system is expected to guarantee delivery. Given these constraints I
>> envisage each client system having at least one local exchange (and queues
>> to cope with disconnections), and most probably it/they will be topic
>> exchanges to support the addressing functionality. However I'm very new to
>> the AMQP routing and addressing concepts so I may be misguided.
>>
>
> Even with dynamic routing, you need to manually set it up per exchange
> (what it then does is manage the set of routing keys in use for
> inter-broker links, based on the interest expressed by subscriptions).
>
> If you are using topic exchanges you might be able to simply forward all
> messages for a given exchange through from A->B->C, which you can do by
> simple static routes per exchange (not actually any more management
> operations than making setting up dynamic routing for the same exchange).
> The static routes *should* work ok with 'push' routes (though I will warn
> that those are not as well used), allowing you to choose the direction of
> the TCP connection independent of the direction of message flow.
>
> Also, without wanting to confuse the picture too much, I'll just note in
> passing that the recent developments around AMQP 1.0 may be of some
> interest to your scenario. First off there is the 'Dispatch Router'
> component. This is superficially similar to a broker, but it only forwards
> messages it never accepts responsibility for them. It could be used as the
> 'server' broker in your setup, with the 'clients' both connecting in and
> sending or receiving to/from that. You could use this in conjunction with
> qpidd (which supports establishing basic AMQP 1.0 links to/from other
> processes), or depending on your use case there may not be a real need for
> brokers at all.
>
> (A future release of the router will be able to establish links out to
> other 1.0 capable brokers (or other types of 'thing') itself making it even
> more flexible/powerful).
>
>
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