Rob,

I created JIRA QPID-8225 with Title "Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering 
queue/consumer messages after 4 GB data transfer".

The log you requested is attached to the JIRA.

The log contains the connection startup, 10 messages flowing (2 every 10 
seconds), then connection close.  It does not contain when message flow stopped 
(credit exhausted?).  I can get that for you if you like.

We did see this in the log:

2018-08-06 07:57:34,100 DEBUG [IO-/15.252.32.148:43266] 
(o.a.q.s.p.v.ServerConnection) - RECV: [conn:6cd338b5] ch=1 
MessageSetFlowMode(destination=dsaqp15, flowMode=CREDIT)
2018-08-06 07:57:34,102 DEBUG [IO-/15.252.32.148:43266] 
(o.a.q.s.p.v.ServerConnection) - RECV: [conn:6cd338b5] ch=1 
MessageFlow(destination=dsaqp15, unit=MESSAGE, value=4294967295)
2018-08-06 07:57:34,102 DEBUG [IO-/15.252.32.148:43266] 
(o.a.q.s.p.v.ServerConnection) - RECV: [conn:6cd338b5] ch=1 
MessageFlow(destination=dsaqp15, unit=BYTE, value=4294967295)

And we never saw anything that looked like credit was being reset by the 
consumer.

So, perhaps the 4 GB credit simply is all used up and messages stop flowing.

How do we change FlowMode to OFF, or if that is not possible, how do we reset 
our credit back to 4 GB in the QPID C++ API?

Since we don't see any of our code setting any kind of flow control option, is 
the C++ API sending flow control default setting to the broker, or is the 
broker setting flow control default because the producer has not specified any 
flow control?  If the latter, then perhaps the C++ and Java brokers have 
different flow control defaults.  If the former, then C++ broker and the java 
broker are not implementing specified the flow control in the same way.

Again, our original code was only tested with C++ brokers.

Thanks,
Mike
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:rob.j.godf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 3:34 PM
To: users@qpid.apache.org
Cc: Mears, David B <david.me...@hpe.com>; Herren, Elaine 
<elaine.her...@hpe.com>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop) <shobha.jayatheer...@hpe.com>
Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer messages after 
4 GB data transfer

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 00:11, Dyslin, Mike <mike.dys...@hpe.com> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> We do not know how our consumer is managing credit, or anything about 
> credit flow, but have started looking for information on this.  It 
> sounds like the right place to look.  If we could figure out how to 
> turn off the flow control limits, that may do it.  We inherited most 
> of this code, and the original authors of the code are long gone, so 
> we don't have the experience of putting it all together.  Perhaps the 
> defaults for this credit flow is different between the C++ and Java brokers.
>
> OK, we'll try to figure out how to get protocol logging turned on and 
> get a log file to look at.
>

Thanks - I had a quick look at the Java Broker code for managing credit and 
didn't immediately see any obvious errors that would hit a properly functioning 
client, *however* it does look like that if the client is improperly managing 
credit there would be an overflow error where a value that should be an 
unsigned integral value (the amount of remaining credit) will turn negative.  
The broker is storing the amount of outstanding credit as a (signed) Java long 
value.  AMQP 0-10 defines the message.flow command as "This command controls 
the flow of message data to a given destination.
It is used by the recipient of messages to dynamically match the incoming rate 
of message flow to its processing or forwarding capacity. Upon receipt of this 
command, the sender must add "value" number of the specified unit to the 
available credit balance for the specified destination."  So if the client is 
repeatedly adding more credit than it needs the stored "limit" in the broker 
might overflow and turn negative.  At this point the broker would stop sending 
messages.

-- Rob



>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:rob.j.godf...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:11 AM
> To: users@qpid.apache.org
> Cc: Mears, David B <david.me...@hpe.com>; Herren, Elaine < 
> elaine.her...@hpe.com>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop) 
> <shobha.jayatheer...@hpe.com
> >
> Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer 
> messages after 4 GB data transfer
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 19:18, Dyslin, Mike <mike.dys...@hpe.com> wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >
> > Our consumer client version is 1.37:
> >
> >    bash 0 3: rpm -qa | grep -i qpid
> >    qpid-cpp-client-devel-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
> >    python-qpid-1.37.0-1.el7.noarch
> >    qpid-qmf-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
> >    qpid-cpp-client-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
> >    python-qpid-qmf-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
> >    qpid-cpp-server-1.37.0-1.el7.x86_64
> >    qpid-proton-c-0.18.1-1.el7.x86_64
> >    qpid-tools-1.37.0-1.el7.noarch
> >
> > Our producer client version is 6.1.5:
> >     -rw-r--r--    1 NSDA.NSDA          NSDA      570873 Jul 26 15:42
> > qpid-client-6.1.5.jar
> >     -rw-r--r--    1 NSDA.NSDA          NSDA      864493 Jul 26 15:42
> > qpid-common-6.1.5.jar
> >
> > Both producer and consumer clients use AMQP_0_10 protocol.
> >
>
> OK - so my assumption here is that there is some issue in the 
> management of credit in the broker (or possibly in the client).  AMQP 
> 0-10 has two distinct credit flow modes "credit" and "window" and also 
> allows the consumer to separately set limits for both "message" and "byte" 
> credit.
> I'm not very familiar with the C++ API, but do you know how your 
> consumer is managing credit?
>
> One thing that would be very helpful in trying to diagnose this 
> problem is getting protocol logging for the consumer (at least for the 
> start of the consumer where it sets up the credit flow mode, and 
> towards the end where it would be interesting to see the credit being 
> allocated just before message flow stops).
>
> -- Rob
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for your assistance,
> > Mike
> >
> > FYI - There may be a typo on the past releases web page.  I believe
> "2017"
> > should be "2018" in "Qpid JMS AMQP 0-x 6.3.2, July 2017".  URL:
> > https://qpid.apache.org/releases/index.html#past-releases
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:rob.j.godf...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 5:57 PM
> > To: users@qpid.apache.org
> > Cc: Mears, David B <david.me...@hpe.com>; Herren, Elaine < 
> > elaine.her...@hpe.com>; Rao, Shobha (NonStop) 
> > <shobha.jayatheer...@hpe.com
> > >
> > Subject: Re: Java Broker (7.0.6) stops delivering queue/consumer 
> > messages after 4 GB data transfer
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 01:25, Dyslin, Mike <mike.dys...@hpe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This is my first submit to this email group.  Hopefully this is 
> > > the correct place to post this problem.
> > >
> > >
> > This is exactly the right place to post this problem.
> >
> >
> > > We are running a continuous stream of message (about 5K each) from 
> > > producer to consumer over a single java broker queue at a rate of 
> > > about 600 messages/second.  Outbound message flow stops after 
> > > transferring 4 GB of message data (about 770,000 messages in 25 
> > > minutes).  The Web Management Console page for our consumer 
> > > connection
> > shows the total "Outbound Bytes"
> > > growing steadily until it reaches 4.0 GB and stops with "Last I/O time"
> > > unchanging thereafter.
> > >
> > > After outbound messages stop:
> > > Inbound messages continue on the producer connection (well past 
> > > 4.0
> > > GB) and are kept in the queue until they expire with a 
> > > time-to-live value of 3 minutes.  The queue grows until is 
> > > stabilizes with a steady
> > > 600 m/s inbound, and 600 m/s expiring and being deleted from the 
> > > queue (as expected).  The Web Management Console shows that the 
> > > consumer connection remains open and is a consumer on the queue, 
> > > and the queue shows the connection as a consumer on the queue.
> > >
> > > If I run the exact same test replacing the Java Broker with a C++ 
> > > broker (1.37.0), message flow continues well past the 4 GB barrier.
> > > I kept it running for about 17 hours reaching about 37 million 
> > > messages, about 180 GB data transferred on the queue.
> > >
> > > Since the only difference seems to be the broker, this seems to 
> > > point to a problem with the Java Broker, and not issues with our 
> > > producer, consumer or network issues.  Could there be some problem 
> > > with our java broker configuration that would explain this behaviour?
> > >
> >
> > Unfortunately this sounds like it may be a bug in the Java Broker 
> > :-(
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Has anyone out there experienced more than 4 GB of outbound data 
> > > on a single java broker connection or queue?
> > >
> > >
> > Can you confirm which client you are using, and which version of 
> > AMQP is in use (as you have identified I don't expect this to be a 
> > client problem, but knowing the client will help us track down the 
> > issue in the
> broker)?
> >
> >
> > > Any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Other comments/observations:
> > >
> > > I do not know if the 4 GB barrier is associated with the 
> > > connection and/or the queue because all our message traffic is 
> > > over one consumer connection and one queue.  I could determine 
> > > this by changing our consumer code to spread message traffic over 
> > > one connection and multiple
> > queues.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > We are using the heartbeat feature with a 5 minute timeout.  Since 
> > the
> > > connection stays open beyond the 5 minute timeout after the 
> > > messages stop, I assume the heartbeat messages are still being 
> > > sent between consumer and broker, indicating that the consumer and 
> > > broker are able to communicate over the socket.  It has been 
> > > awhile since I have tested that the heartbeat feature is working 
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > If I close the consumer connection from the Web Management 
> > > Console, the broker deletes the queue (I believe) and our consumer 
> > > detects the closed connection, establishes a new connection and 
> > > new queue, and messages start flowing again until . . . we reach 
> > > the 4 GB barrier and messages stop being delivered once again.
> > >
> > > We have run with the Java Broker on both Linux (RHEL 7.4) and 
> > > proprietary NonStop POSIX platform with the same results.
> > > Unfortunately, the C++ broker is not yet an option on the NonStop 
> > > POSIX platform where we require the broker to be.
> > >
> > >
> > Hopefully we can quickly track down the issue in the Java Broker and 
> > push out a fix,
> >
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > Apologies you've run into this issue, Rob
> >
> >
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