Exactly, cairmgorm, as Carlos says, is not the best option, but we save a
lot of time in migrations where they use it and leave more time for other
questions.

 i will continue to test how to fill that array today.

Thank you very much for everyone in this collaboration.

Gustavo.

El jue., 6 feb. 2020 a las 8:39, Carlos Rovira (<carlosrov...@apache.org>)
escribió:

> Thanks Greg, for the sponsor credits, and thanks Takeshita for the words :)
>
> I know Cairngorm could be good for people wanting to migrate with the less
> effort possible. Anyway, I recommend, if possible to try to switch to Crux.
> We already did that several years ago in Flex, since all DI, IOC stuff,
> make us be more efficient and increase options. For people creating new
> apps, for me there's no doubt, for people migrating, should contemplate the
> Crux option if they continue evolving the app with new features...
>
> just my 2 :)
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> El jue., 6 feb. 2020 a las 5:28, Takeshita Shoichiro (<jl03...@gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Greg, thanks for your clarification.  Anyway, it is  a great work.
>> Carlos, thanks all the times.^_^
>>
>> 2020年2月6日(木) 13:22 Greg Dove <greg.d...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Takeshita,
>>>
>>> Yes I think a few people have asked for Cairngorm or expressed interest
>>> in it. Given the choice, I personally think Crux will be a more
>>> modern/better option, but like I said, more people are asking for Cairngorm
>>> now, so probably it makes sense to port that too.
>>>
>>> I'm also pleased to hear that you are using Crux, I hope it's working
>>> well for you. Please report any issues if you see them.
>>>
>>> One small thing: I definitely understand that you were referring to the
>>> work I did on porting it to Royale, but just for the sake of anyone else
>>> who reads this: it's definitely not 'my Crux framework'. The code is ported
>>> from Swiz, and credit for the awesome features it has rests with the
>>> original authors of Swiz (I was in contact with the original developer
>>> during my efforts to port it to Royale).
>>> Also, just so people are aware, Carlos sponsored the majority of my work
>>> on porting that, so you really have Carlos to thank for that.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:04 PM Takeshita Shoichiro <jl03...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greg,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your work. We already have your Crux framework replacing
>>>> Cairngorm, it is great if Cairngorm works with Royale.  It will save a
>>>> plenty of time of emulation work.
>>>>
>>>> 2020年2月6日(木) 12:33 Greg Dove <greg.d...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There does not appear to be a default property, like an array to put
>>>>> the 'children' in. I think it just creates the children as instances and
>>>>> makes sure they have id properties on the mxml-generated subclass that the
>>>>> instances are assigned to.
>>>>>
>>>>> The services are then identified and categorised by iterating the
>>>>> accessors of the ServiceLocator subclass via reflection and checking their
>>>>> types and then registering them.
>>>>> Although it is and mxml instance of ServiceLocator, it is also an
>>>>> enforced singleton which is accessed elsewhere from code. At least that is
>>>>> how it appears to be set up to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already took a look at the code and have made (not many) local
>>>>> changes and have the Cairngorm swc compiling via maven for both js and 
>>>>> swf.
>>>>> I have not tested it. Things like weak event listeners are gone.
>>>>> The main issue I think will be the Event.ADDED and Event.REMOVED for
>>>>> ViewHelper automated register/unregister. Maybe we can have a
>>>>> CaingormViewBase class with support for these, or perhaps we can use the
>>>>> ADDED/REMOVED_FROM_STAGE emulation support that Crux uses, and that might
>>>>> be all that is needed, but it may not always work the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to tidy it up and share it tomorrow. The licence is BSD and
>>>>> is permissive (
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/adobe/cairngorm/code/HEAD/tree/cairngorm/trunk/frameworks/cairngorm/License.txt)
>>>>>  -
>>>>> It seems to be to be similar to others like MIT etc, but I don't know
>>>>> specifically what the rules are for Apache with that licence (in terms of
>>>>> possibility to include in Royale itself).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 3:40 PM De Carli Gustavo <
>>>>> gustavodeca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In flex use the swc. I am seeing the same thing that you are
>>>>>> commenting, I do not understand where it assigns the remote objects to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ServiceLocator. This would have to be added to the "services" attribute 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the RemoteObjects class. I will try to assign by code without using the
>>>>>> mxml to see if it does not generate the error "null0".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El mié., 5 feb. 2020 a las 23:15, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com>)
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I grabbed ServiceLocator.as and was able to produce the null0
>>>>>>> problem, but the cause is that ServiceLocator does not have a default
>>>>>>> property.  Did your MXML work in Flex?  What ServiceLocator property 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be assigned the mx:RemoteObject?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *De Carli Gustavo <gustavodeca...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *Reply-To: *"users@royale.apache.org" <users@royale.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 12:00 PM
>>>>>>> *To: *"users@royale.apache.org" <users@royale.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Cairngorm problem add remote object MXML.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I download https://sourceforge.net/adobe/cairngorm/code/
>>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fadobe%2Fcairngorm%2Fcode%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ce69b06cf11f748f1c34408d7aa7601ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637165296132948281&sdata=jHABq2xbIpH9Q6aiYAWl1u23LkdalccZkE7uIbyJy3E%3D&reserved=0>,
>>>>>>> and change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> import flash.utils.describeType;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    --> import org.apache.royale.reflection.describeType;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> import flash.utils.Dictionary;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    --> import org.apache.royale.utils.ObjectMap;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this method
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Return all the accessors on this object.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * @param serviceLocator the IServiceLocator instance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * @return this object's accessors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> protected
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> function getAccessors(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> serviceLocator : IServiceLocator ) :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> XMLList
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> var description : XML = describeType( serviceLocator );
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> var accessors : XMLList = description.accessor.( @access ==
>>>>>>> "readwrite" ).@name;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> return accessors;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> return describeType( serviceLocator).accessors(@access ==
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "readwrite" ).@name;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El mié., 5 feb. 2020 a las 16:04, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com>)
>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos, What Flash APIs is Cairngorm dependent on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Reply-To: *"users@royale.apache.org" <users@royale.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:05 AM
>>>>>>> *To: *"users@royale.apache.org" <users@royale.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: Cairngorm problem add remote object MXML.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cairngorm depends on Flash APIs, so make a Royale migration could be
>>>>>>> not easy, or requires some expertise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can use Crux instead that has support for Cairngorm style
>>>>>>> Commands. Crux is the same as Swiz Framework for Flex but rewritten to 
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> in Royale, and supports much more like dependency injection, Inversion 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> control, event handling, ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have 3 examples in the examples/crux folder you can check.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recommend you Crux over Cairngorm since Swiz was born to
>>>>>>> substitute Cairngorm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El mié., 5 feb. 2020 a las 18:24, De Carli Gustavo (<
>>>>>>> gustavodeca...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <version>0.9.7-SNAPSHOT</version>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El mié., 5 feb. 2020 a las 14:02, Alex Harui (<aha...@adobe.com>)
>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What version of the compiler are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does the ServiceLocator source look like?  It might be an issue
>>>>>>> with defaultProperties for non-DOM objects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *De Carli Gustavo <gustavodeca...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *Reply-To: *"users@royale.apache.org" <users@royale.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 7:35 AM
>>>>>>> *To: *"users@royale.apache.org" <users@royale.apache.org>
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Cairngorm problem add remote object MXML.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to transcribe gairngorm, at runtime it gives me an error
>>>>>>> in the construction of the ServiceLocator, I understand that it is an 
>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>> of the MXMLDataInterpreter. Anyone have any idea of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gustavo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *1. CODE *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <cairngorm:ServiceLocator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009
>>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fns.adobe.com%2Fmxml%2F2009&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ce69b06cf11f748f1c34408d7aa7601ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637165296132958276&sdata=D2z6jFGBTx4%2BBwOqQ4XwVSKQ0UcBb6eKavH2T0YYOA4%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xmlns:mx="library://ns.apache.org/royale/mx
>>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fns.apache.org%2Froyale%2Fmx&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ce69b06cf11f748f1c34408d7aa7601ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637165296132968272&sdata=RXTRBxfU2GmONGZEMCb%2B4pdF1BIv20ZcCXskhvQ7XPw%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xmlns:cairngorm="com.adobe.cairngorm.business.*">
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <mx:RemoteObject
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> id="srvSeguridades"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> destination="seguridades"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> result="event.token.resultHandler(event)"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fault="event.token.faultHandler(event)"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> endpoint="http://localhost:8080/messagebroker/amf"/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> </cairngorm:ServiceLocator>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *2. LINE OF ERROR (RED)*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>  * @constructor
>>>>>>>  * @extends {com.adobe.cairngorm.business.ServiceLocator}
>>>>>>>  */
>>>>>>> services.Servicio = function() {
>>>>>>>   services.Servicio.base(this, 'constructor');
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   /**
>>>>>>>    * @private
>>>>>>>    * @type {mx.rpc.remoting.mxml.RemoteObject}
>>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>>   this.srvSeguridades_;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   /**
>>>>>>>    * @private
>>>>>>>    * @type {Array}
>>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>>   this.mxmldd;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   /**
>>>>>>>    * @private
>>>>>>>    * @type {Array}
>>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>>   this.mxmldp;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   this.generateMXMLAttributes
>>>>>>>   ([1,
>>>>>>> mx.rpc.remoting.mxml.RemoteObject,
>>>>>>> 3,
>>>>>>> 'id',
>>>>>>> true,
>>>>>>> 'srvSeguridades',
>>>>>>> 'destination',
>>>>>>> true,
>>>>>>> 'seguridades',
>>>>>>> 'endpoint',
>>>>>>> true,
>>>>>>> 'http://localhost:8080/messagebroker/amf',
>>>>>>> 0,
>>>>>>> 2,
>>>>>>> 'result',
>>>>>>> this.$EH0,
>>>>>>> 'fault',
>>>>>>> this.$EH1,
>>>>>>> null0,   <- ERROR
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>   ]);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Trace  console log
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Servicio.js:61 Uncaught ReferenceError: null0 is not defined
>>>>>>>     at new services.Servicio (Servicio.js:61)
>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>> Function.org.apache.royale.utils.MXMLDataInterpreter.generateMXMLArray
>>>>>>> (MXMLDataInterpreter.js:126)
>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>> Function.org.apache.royale.utils.MXMLDataInterpreter.generateMXMLInstances
>>>>>>> (MXMLDataInterpreter.js:271)
>>>>>>>     at main.Main.mx.core.UIComponent.createChildren
>>>>>>> (UIComponent.js:923)
>>>>>>>     at main.Main.mx.core.Container.createChildren (Container.js:136)
>>>>>>>     at main.Main.mx.core.Application.createChildren
>>>>>>> (Application.js:122)
>>>>>>>     at main.Main.mx.core.UIComponent.initialize (UIComponent.js:871)
>>>>>>>     at main.Main.mx.core.UIComponent.addedToParent
>>>>>>> (UIComponent.js:417)
>>>>>>>     at main.Main.mx.core.Container.addedToParent (Container.js:123)
>>>>>>>     at
>>>>>>> Main_mx_managers_SystemManager.org.apache.royale.core.UIBase.addElement
>>>>>>> (UIBase.js:402)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>>>>>> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ce69b06cf11f748f1c34408d7aa7601ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637165296132968272&sdata=XhkJr%2Bar3%2Fpt4hFsMBYUB3AWiWMEkiQjdBSpNhRDP4o%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>> Shoichiro Takeshita
>>>> 武下 祥一郎
>>>>
>>> --
>> Shoichiro Takeshita
>> 武下 祥一郎
>>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
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