> On 28 Apr 2020, at 12:06, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Am 28.04.20 um 20:01 schrieb @lbutlr:
>> On 28 Apr 2020, at 02:58, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>> Am 28.04.20 um 10:38 schrieb @lbutlr:
>>>> I get occasional mails like this:
>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2020, at 18:33, users-h...@spamassassin.apache.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>>>>> users@spamassassin.apache.org mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> cool that you strp the relevant content with
>>
>> The only thing I stripped was the remaining boilerplate of the bounce.
>> Nothing relevant at all, but here it is.
>>
>>>>> Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
>>>>> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
>>>>> message I received.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
>>>>> bounces,
>>>>> I will remove your address from the users mailing list,
>>>>> without further notice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have
>>>>> bounced from your address.
>>>>>
>>>>> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
>>>>> To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
>>>>> send a short message to:
>>>>> <users-get.123_...@spamassassin.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
>>>>> send a short message to:
>>>>> <users-in...@spamassassin.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the message numbers:
>>>>>
>>>>> 121942
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
>>
>>>>> Return-Path: <>
>>>>> Received: (qmail 34298 invoked for bounce); 14 Apr 2020 19:22:46 -0000
>>>>> Date: 14 Apr 2020 19:22:46 -0000
>>>>> From: mailer-dae...@apache.org
>>>>> To: users-return-1219...@spamassassin.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: failure notice
>>>>
>>>> So, this is weird because I do not use qmail and when I check my mail logs
>>>> for 14 Apr 13:22:46 (I am -0600) there is nothing there at all.
>>>>
>>>> So I assume the bounce is being caused by apache.org and not my server
>>>
>>> what else when it's coming from users-h...@spamassassin.apache.org?
>>>
>>> messages of yiu where rejected, most likely because quting high score
>>> spam, it's that easy
>>
>>
>> That is exactly the opposite of what the message claims as it says message
>> TO me are bouncing and I can retrieve the bounced ones. I take it you’ve
>> never gotten one of these?
>
> i have and i can read and understand
>
> what it says is that *your server rejected* list messages for whatever
> reason
And my server did not. That is the issue.
> and yes, "bounce" is a wrong wording
>
>> So message TO me are bouncing without involving my mail server
>
> no, *your* server rejects list messages, most likely ones with quoted or
> attached spam stuff
There is no such rejection in my logs. That is the entire point of my original
post:
> when I check my mail logs for 14 Apr 13:22:46 (I am -0600) there is nothing
> there at all.
And later:
> In fact, there is no “apache.org” at all in the mail logs between 09:56 and
> 22:12 for the date in question. Nor for 207.244.88.153 (the IP for Hermes,
> which actually sends the mail).
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