it is manual training.  i have been looking through the configuration but i cannot figure out how it is set up.  i think it works when email is moved in and out of spam directory .  i will keep looking and report back if i remember how it was set up.
in the meantime i sent a message to the amavis mailing list

On 10/07/2020 13:59, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 10.07.20 13:16, Matthew Broadhead wrote:
i mean bayes_seen table in my MySQL database

where did you configure bayes to use mysql?
are you sure amavis uses it?

and... did you train manually or do you completely rely on automatic
training?

On 10/07/2020 13:12, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 10.07.20 13:00, Matthew Broadhead wrote:
i have 788787 messages in my

your?

bayes_seen directory

what is the bayes_seen directory? I have bayes_seen file, which is part of
the bayes database.

.  33494 are flagged 's'.  i am not sure why it seems to have no effect on the spam coming through


On 10/07/2020 11:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 10.07.20 11:02, Matthew Broadhead wrote:
i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i was unsuccessful.

bayes need some time and some mails to learn until it starts hitting.
You can help it by training manually, using bayes database in amavis' home directory. You also should do that, because automatic training is not ideal
ane may miss many spams.


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