> Note that SA will try to create an empty DB if none exists. I'm not sure that > I can think up a circumstance (other than a disappearing user) where fallback > > to global Bayes would happen. SA will not fall back to a global Bayes DB > just because an otherwise perfectly good per-user DB isn't properly seeded.
It doesn't seem to be creating an empty database at all. Not sure why > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Question about user specific bayes > > On 2022-01-18 at 11:12:01 UTC-0500 (Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:12:01 +0000) > Dino Edwards <dino.edwa...@mydirectmail.net> is rumored to have said: > >> Hi, >> >> Trying to implement user specific bayes. My current setup is setup as >> follows in regards to global bayes. I'm also using amavis: >> >> bayes_path /opt/sa-bayes/bayes >> bayes_file_mode 0777 > > Don't do that anywhere. It's not safe. > >> use_bayes 1 >> use_bayes_rules 1 >> bayes_auto_learn 0 >> bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 15 >> bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -5 > [...] >> >> and it did seem to create bayes_toks and bayes_seen files under the >> /opt/sa-bayes-users/b...@domain.tld<mailto:/opt/sa-bayes-users/bob@dom >> a >> in.tld> >> directory as expected. > > So, it is working. > >> Is this all that's required to get this working? > > Yes > >> What happens to the global bayes file in local.cf? Is that no longer >> used? > > I believe that it would be used if for some reason SA couldn't figure > out which user to pick for a scan at runtime. Maybe if spamd was > launched as a user that was later deleted? > > But generally, working per-user Bayes setup makes the global file > pointless and unused. > >> >> How do the following settings from the local.cf figure in the user >> specific bayes files? >> >> use_bayes 1 >> use_bayes_rules 1 >> bayes_auto_learn 0 >> bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 15 >> bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -5 > > The local.cf file is loaded before user_prefs, which is the last > config file loaded, so anything that can be changed in user_prefs > (i.e. all of those, I believe) which is set in user_prefs will 'stick' > > Note that in this case you're choosing to disable auto-learn, so the > threshold values are never used. > >> Do the user specific bayes have the same requirements to train them >> with at least 200 messages? > > Yes. Each Bayes DB must be seeded before it can be used. You should > also plan a way to regularly feed known spam and ham to those > databases, since you aren't auto-learning. > >> before they start working? > > Before SA will determine a Bayes score on incoming messages, yes. > > > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many > *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire
