> On May 2, 2023, at 9:37 AM, Thomas Johnson <t...@terramar.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2023, at 8:27 AM, Philip Prindeville 
>> <philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a way to add scoring that says, "If the sending domain has DKIM 
>> records, but there's no DKIM signature on this message, then attach a high 
>> score to it?"
>> 
>> We seem to attach negative scores when DKIM is present and valid, but what 
>> about the opposite direction?
>> 
>> If it's absent, but it shouldn't be?
>> 
> 
> 
> If there’s no dkim signature, you can’t check for dkim records in dns. The 
> selector for a dkim signature is arbitrary - there’s no one dns lookup you 
> can do to see all possible dkim records for a domain. 
> 
> You can use ADSP - it’s old and I don’t know how many domains have ADSP 
> records these days, but it lets a domain specify that all mail must be dkim 
> signed to be considered valid.  
> 
> We tell our customers to add an ADSP record, and we use it when checking 
> their incoming mail to help identify forgeries. I don’t know that it helps 
> much with mail from non-customers, though.  I’ll have to check and see how 
> often our rules hit for that. 
> 


Right, because you need to grovel out the selector from the DKIM-Signature 
line.  Groan.

That you can't mark a domain as requiring DKIM at the top-level seems to be a 
design flaw in the protocol.


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