Remember that flames start as a small ember that finally blows up into
flame.  :)  I'm more or less just joking that this is a flame war.  It's
not there yet.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dimitri Yioulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:23 PM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which Operating Systems Do You Use and Why?
> 
> (hmmm... top-posting)
> 
> In truth, nothing I've read in this thread has seemed inciteful; not
> inflamatory at all.  I think we all understand the passion we hold for
the
> distros we use, but it appears we've been mature enough (ok, I'm
sucking
> my
> thumb right now, so I guess I'm out) to give the OP some good insight
into
> our experiences.
> 
> Just my 2 (fill in the currency of your choice)  :-)
> 
> Dimitri
> 
> 
> On Friday April 07 2006 2:51 pm, Gary W. Smith wrote:
> > Now we get to watch the body part's fly across the room.  :)
> >
> > You know there are 3 things in life which you never ever talk about
in
> > public; religion, politics and what OS is best.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ryan Kather [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:24 AM
> > > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Which Operating Systems Do You Use and Why?
> > >
> > > > We can not seem to come to an agreement on the best operating
system
> >
> > to
> >
> > > run
> > >
> > > > spam assassin. So we have decided to post this question to the
> >
> > mailing
> >
> > > list
> > >
> > > > so we can have other opinions. I realize everyone will have a
> >
> > different
> >
> > > > opinion on the subject and some will have none at all, linux is
> >
> > linux
> >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > unix is unix. So I would like to hear users experiences using
> >
> > different
> >
> > > > operating systems. Pros/Cons/Problems/Headaches/etc. The
operating
> > >
> > > systems
> > >
> > > > I'm most interested in are Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware,
> >
> > FreeBSDs,
> >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > OpenSolaris.
> > >
> > > Now why do you have to go start a flame war ;).  I guess I'll add
my 2
> > > cents.
> > >
> > > Let me start by saying they're all great choices (though I can't
> >
> > comment
> >
> > > on
> > > OpenSolaris).  I prefer Linux.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that more and more development is becoming Linux
> >
> > centric.
> >
> > > It
> > > makes sense since it definitely seems to have a larger user base
> >
> > (though
> >
> > > I'm
> > > sure SA is very much developed with BSD and Linux in mind).  I
know
> >
> > when I
> >
> > > moved from FreeBSD to Linux I definitely noticed a performance
> > > improvement.
> > > This has also been very well documented several times.. In most
> >
> > situations
> >
> > > Linux outperforms BSD (though often at the cost of stability).
> > >
> > > Here's one such test, though it is slightly old FreeBSD 5.1 and
Linux
> > > Kernel
> > > 2.6.0-test7.
> > > http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/
> > >
> > > It also seems that Linux gets a lot more interesting features,
IMO.
> > > Reiser4,
> > > SELinux, LVM2 (does FreeBSD have that with online volume resizing
and
> > > snapshots?).
> > >
> > > I would say you should analyze your needs.  What are you most
> >
> > comfortable
> >
> > > with?  You'll be happy with Linux or FreeBSD, so it's more a
matter of
> > > personal preference.  For a rule of thumb maybe you could say; If
I
> >
> > want
> >
> > > to
> > > be stability centric == FreeBSD, if I want to be feature and/or
speed
> > > centric
> > > == Linux.  (Knowing that both are faster then *Certain* other
> >
> > operating
> >
> > > systems)
> > >
> > > As for my choice in Linux:
> > >
> > > I personally like SLES (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server) for my
servers.
> > > Very
> > > nice update features, solid stability and performance, decent
package
> > > selection, and YaST is quite nice if you don't like hand editing
> >
> > config
> >
> > > files.  You don't need a gui to run it since it has  full ncurses
> >
> > support
> >
> > > (RHEL's tool doesn't I believe).  SLES 10 is due out this summer
too
> >
> > with
> >
> > > some impressive bundling (XEN for one).
> > >
> > > Ubuntu seems a bit desktop focused for me as far as serving is
> >
> > concerned.
> >
> > > Debian stable is too old, but apt is amazing and as someone else
> >
> > mentioned
> >
> > > you can mix stable, unstable, and testing packages together so
it's
> >
> > really
> >
> > > no
> > > big deal.  Can't really comment on Slackware having only used it a
few
> > > times,
> > > though I think it could use some better package management from
what I
> > > remember.
> > >
> > > Gentoo is amazing.  I would definitely say you should run Gentoo
if
> >
> > you
> >
> > > want a
> > > testing environment for bleeding edge features.  It makes a fine
> >
> > server
> >
> > > too
> > > if you have a few boxes and can use distcc to reduce the time to
> >
> > update
> >
> > > packages and distribute load so users don't notice.  I have had a
few
> > > cases
> > > where ebuilds have been broken.  That's not fun.  It's definitely
not
> >
> > the
> >
> > > most stable for a server, but you can't beat it's package
management,
> > > customization (except for maybe LFS), and speed.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > --
> > > 'Twas midnight, and the UNIX hacks
> > > Did gyre and gimble in their cave
> > > All mimsy was the CS-VAX
> > > And Cory raths outgrabe.
> > >
> > > "Beware the software rot, my son!
> > > The faults that bite, the jobs that thrash!
> > > Beware the broken pipe, and shun
> > > The frumious system crash!"
> 
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