On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 09:21 -0500, Ken A wrote:
> Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote:
> > On Wednesday 30 July 2008 00:55:50 mouss wrote:
> >> Ken A wrote:
> >>> Can be a probe too. Accepting mail from that IP with that content says
> >>> something about your system. Spammers aren't stupid. They fingerprint us
> >>> just like we fingerprint them.
> >> If I was a spammer, I don't see why I would probe you. I understand if
> >> it's filter poisoning, but probing to see if the message will be
> >> accepted is useless. they can just send their spam. if you reject it,
> >> others will accept it, and some will read it, which is exactly what they
> >> want to achieve.
> > 
> > No. Some spammers are a lot more clever then that. 
> > Especialy if you sell lists, you usually make sure they are high quality.
> > This is a low volume probe. Propably to clean out harvested lists.
> > 
> > - They are probing for wrong addresses 
> >   (This is why returning 550 imho makes sense and greylisting does not)
> > - They are probing for backscatterer
> >   All mails would have the same From address,envelope, and helo
> >   of a compromised mailserver. 
> > - They are probing for spamtraps.
> >   Bigger ISPs can propably detect that best, 
> >   since the mails would have a pattern.
> > 
> > Of course there is always the posibility that the ratware is simply broken. 
> > shit happens :P
> > 
> 
> Yes. And also, in any war, consider resource usage.
> A simple example: Spammer at any given time may have access to a number 
> of DNSRBL listed bots, and a number of unlisted bots. With an 
> understanding of how ISP handles filtering based on a given DNSRBL, 
> spammer may choose a certain delivery pattern.


How does the spammer come to know his mail is delivered and not
quarantined / deleted / or spam tagged 




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