On Tuesday 12 May 2009, LuKreme wrote:
>On 11-May-2009, at 17:20, Marc Perkel wrote:
>> mouss wrote:
>>> Is phishing really a problem for banks? I don't think so.
>>
>> You're kidding right?
>
>No, he has a point. The people with the problem are the customers. The
>bank is at best neutral and at worst couldn't care less.
>
And likely won't care until such time as a customer, whose account was hacked 
and cleaned out, successfully sues for several millions.  That gets their 
attention cuz it can be seen on the bottom line.

I find my bank at least (and thank $DIETY it has no connection to a certain 
big one being bailed out, they truly haven't got a quarter to call anybody who 
might care) is very responsive to that which will cost them money.  Years ago, 
when they first started doing the online thing, which I find handier than that 
famous button on the outhouse door, they supported windows XP and IE5 only and 
refused to help me with login details because I was running linux and mozilla 
(yeah, that is old) so I got in the truck and drove down there and offered to 
move my account across town.  It was in the range of 25k at the time.  
Eyebrows went up, a long ways, and girls in cubicles were suddenly busy on the 
phones.  10 minutes later one of them came out with a printout that gave me an 
address that bypassed all their active directory crap & took me straight to 
the login screen.  It worked, and is still working 7 or 8 years later.

You just have to know how to talk to them, you do it with the only thing they 
grok, money.

>Also, despite the amount of phishing, I think the vast majority of
>data leaks come from the banks themselves, or from some stolen laptop
>worth tens of thousands of customers's account info on it and no
>encryption.

This has been demoed very well, but without near enough ink from the MSM.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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