On Sun, 2014-10-12 at 02:58 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 12.10.2014 um 02:20 schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann:
> > You have exactly one false positive listing. That is not even close to > > "hit randomly". > > well, i can't verify the other hits because don't have access to other > users email - the follwoing is another one and that *is* the definition > of randomly - in doubt such a list must not answer when there is not > verified data instead hit a FP > > URIBL_RHS_DOB Contains an URI of a new domain (Day Old Bread) > [URIs: goo.gl] Another false positive DOB listing. Not good. Thanks for taking some time to actually provide detail. As for your personal definition of randomness, please see what others have to say about it. Multiple bad listings still is not random. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness > > Please stop the repeated, false accusations on this list. > > point out that it is not trustable currently is not a accusation and You claimed DOB listed sourceforge.net, which it didn't. You repeatedly claimed their listing to be random, which it isn't. That is what I referred to as "false accusations". > frankly http://support-intelligence.com/dob/ itself states "The list is > currently in BETA and should be used accordingly. We still have some > kinks in it and occasionally domains older than five days, or other > important domains end up in the list" Yes. So what? You are free to disable DOB on your server. You are free and in fact welcome to report any issue with stock SA included DNSBLs, on-list or in bugzilla, with founded evidence. You are not free to claim $list responses to be random without proof. > >>> Obviously, you did not check facts or investigate the issue at all. > >> > >> don't get me wrong, there ist not much to investigate if it hits legit > >> mailing-list messages > > > > Correct, there is not much to investigate. The *only* thing would be to > > verify *which* domain hit the DOB listing, and whether it actually is a > > bad or warranted listing. Besides, that one is absolutely crucial to > > check before claiming a false positive. > > > > A single thing to verify. You did not > > if it hits a regular mailing list thread it is problematic and as said No. It depends on the content. See this list for prime example. > if there are no data for whatever reason the answer should be NXDOMAIN > and not 127.0.0.1 in doubt because FP does more harm than FN False accusation, again. You just claimed $list would return anything other than NXDOMAIN in case of not-being-listed. $ host not-registered-domain.com.dob.sibl.support-intelligence.net Host not-registered-domain.com.dob.sibl.support-intelligence.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) We're talking false positive listings. Not random responses, neither positive listing if "in doubt". Again, stop unfounded false accusations on this list. -- char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4"; main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8? c<<=1: (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}
