Am 19.05.2016 um 17:44 schrieb Joseph Brennan:

Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:

"doing those best" must be the reason for a testing-SPF instead "-all"
come on......


Remember that the DMARC people changed Internet Message Format so that
"From:" no longer shows the person who wrote the message but must "align"
with the mail system that sent the message?

remember all the problems it brings like for mailing-lists as this one?

Well, they also changed the SPF protocol so that -all should not be used.
Using ~all causes processing to continue through DKIM and DMARC, and then
the failure gets reported to the "ruf" address. Using -all is just for
SPF-only people

ah so i need to implement on my side DMARC to give them the benefit of DMARC reports while i could with a proper setup JUST REJECT a froged message long before SpamAssassin - what a improvement

anyways, your whole DMARC stuff has *nothing* to do with what you responded original because it don't and can't change ANYTHING about spam from gmail accounts, they pass SPF/DKIM/DMARC

so what do you try to explain me?

scoll up in the thread where you startet to respond about DMARC and then try to get the context of the thread - hint: it has NOTHING to do with forged mail from whatever servers

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