Thank you very much!

I found some information about this problem. But I thought, this is a  
different problem because I thought that I have "HTTP" in both mails.  
This is wrong. I actually have HTTP in one mail and HTTPS in the other  
one. I completely overlooked this.

I solved the problem by changing the Horde config.

till now I used:
$conf['mailer']['params']['sendmail_path'] = '/usr/lib/sendmail';
$conf['mailer']['params']['sendmail_args'] = '-oi';

and now:
$conf['mailer']['params']['host'] = 'localhost';
$conf['mailer']['params']['port'] = 465;
$conf['mailer']['params']['secure'] = 'ssl';
$conf['mailer']['params']['username_auth'] = true;
$conf['mailer']['params']['password_auth'] = true;
$conf['mailer']['params']['auth'] = true;
$conf['mailer']['params']['lmtp'] = false;
$conf['mailer']['type'] = 'smtp';

This doesn't fix the Spamassassin problem, but it works now:


Return-Path: <t...@lauf-forum.at>
Delivered-To: t...@schachenhofer.net
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
          by mail.lauf-forum.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DFD9400D4
          for <t...@schachenhofer.net>; Wed,  8 Feb 2017 12:58:15 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.lauf-forum.at
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.899
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5
          tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1=0.001,
          RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001]
          autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.lauf-forum.at ([127.0.0.1])
          by localhost (lauf-forum.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
          with ESMTP id hfanGmHu19De for <t...@schachenhofer.net>;
          Wed,  8 Feb 2017 12:58:11 +0100 (CET)
Received: from krasses-pferd6 (mail.lauf-forum.at [IPv6:2a01:4f8:190:1261::2])
          by mail.lauf-forum.at (Postfix) with SMTP id A30749400D2
          for <t...@schachenhofer.net>; Wed,  8 Feb 2017 12:58:09 +0100 (CET)
Received: from 212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at
   (212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at [212.186.35.163]) by
   webmail.lauf-forum.at (Horde Framework) with HTTPS; Wed, 08 Feb 2017
   11:58:09 +0000
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:58:09 +0000
Message-ID:  
<20170208115809.horde.qunfxyjx4tiyra3utrvp...@webmail.lauf-forum.at>
From: t...@lauf-forum.at
To: t...@schachenhofer.net
Subject: Test1234567890
User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Disposition: inline


Thank you again for your quick help.

best regards
Christian



Zitat von "Edda [via SpamAssassin]"  
<ml-node+s1065346n123922...@n5.nabble.com>:

> Am 08.02.17 um 12:01 schrieb i...@lauf-forum.at:
>
> [...]
>>
>> What is the difference between the two mail headers? I don't see one.
>> The only difference I can see ist, that the nonspam mail has only the
>> IP of the sender in the header and the spam mail has also the reverse
>> DNS entry of the IP in the header.
> The key difference is the transfer method: HTTP vs. HTTPS
>
> I tested it with spamassassin 3.4.0. With your original header,
> spamassassin parses the webmail client ip as untrusted:
>
> Feb  8 12:32:46.189 [2306] dbg: received-header: parsed as [
> ip=212.186.35.163 rdns=212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at
> helo=212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at by=webmail.lauf-forum.at
> ident= envfrom= intl=0 id= auth= msa=0 ]
> Feb  8 12:32:46.189 [2306] dbg: received-header: do not trust any hosts
> from here on
> Feb  8 12:32:46.189 [2306] dbg: received-header: relay 212.186.35.163
> trusted? no internal? no msa? no
>
> If I change only HTTPS to HTTP in the first received header, thus:
>
> Received: from 212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at
> (212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at [212.186.35.163]) by
> webmail.lauf-forum.at (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 07 Feb 2017
> 21:57:06 +0000
>
> spamassassin gets it (see the auth=HTTP):
>
> Feb 8 12:56:16.627 [2735] dbg: received-header: parsed as [
> ip=212.186.35.163 rdns=212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at
> helo=212-186-35-163.cable.dynamic.surfer.at by=webmail.lauf-forum.at
> ident= envfrom= intl=0 id= auth=HTTP msa=0 ]
> Feb 8 12:56:16.627 [2735] dbg: received-header: authentication method HTTP
> Feb 8 12:56:16.627 [2735] dbg: received-header: relay 212.186.35.163
> trusted? yes internal? yes msa? no
>
> With the correct parsing spamassassin identifies the relay correctly as
> trusted (ALL_TRUSTED fires for this mail) and therefore doesn't use
> 212.186.35.163 for IP checks.
>
> It's a parsing error in spamassassin. I don't know wether it's fixed in
> 3.4.1.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Edda
>
>
>
>
>
>
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