On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Stuart MacDonald
<stuartm.cod...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I took some time last Fri to see what was 180 seconds prior to the FIN
> packet in the trace (this is the 1.7.14 failure):
> 289223    259.418521000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
> Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
> 289224    259.418583000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54
> 60442 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=358465616 Win=1280 Len=0
> 289225    259.649415000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1334
> [TCP Window Full] Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
> 289226    259.855605000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
> ZeroWindow] 60442 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=358466896 Win=0 Len=0
> 289227    259.868018000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1334
> [TCP Window Full] [TCP Retransmission] Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
> 289228    *REF*    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    66    [TCP
> ZeroWindow] 60442 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=358466896 Win=0 Len=0
> SLE=358465616 SRE=358466896
> 289229    0.383858000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
> Window Update] 60442 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=358466896 Win=2062848 Len=0
> 289230    0.398005000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
> Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
> which yields
> 444658    178.073895000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
> Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
> 444659    178.073944000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54
> 60442 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=550721697 Win=542208 Len=0
> 444660    179.906931000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
> Window Update] 60442 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=550721697 Win=1966336 Len=0
> 444661    180.152119000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54
> 60442 > http [FIN, ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=550721697 Win=1966336 Len=0
> 444662    180.165529000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    http
> > 60442 [ACK] Seq=550721697 Ack=2152 Win=10240 Len=0
>
> If the time ref is set at (wireshark-)packet 289227 then the FIN packet
> would be at 179.something elapsed. There are a lot of TCP zero windows in
> the trace though, that one isn't special AFAICT. There's plenty before and
> after it.
>
> If someone can let me know what the default for http-timeout is for
> 1.8.5/ra_serf, I'll do the same check in this morning's failure and see
> what's there.
>

Some googling
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/subversion-commits/201211.mbox/%3c20121120183435.0e86a2388...@eris.apache.org%3E>reveals
that the default timeout is likely to be 600 seconds. Let's see what we
have there (this is the 1.8.5 failure):
708    25.462185000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.85    TCP    1434    [TCP
segment of a reassembled PDU]
709    25.462580000    10.14.10.85    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    9415 >
http [ACK] Seq=2713 Ack=753855 Win=1280 Len=0
710    25.707269000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.85    TCP    1334    [TCP
Window Full] [TCP segment of a reassembled PDU]
711    25.907229000    10.14.10.85    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 9415 > http [ACK] Seq=2713 Ack=755135 Win=0 Len=0
712    *REF*    10.14.10.85    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP Window
Update] 9415 > http [ACK] Seq=2713 Ack=755135 Win=3328 Len=0
713    0.013860000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.85    TCP    1434    [TCP
segment of a reassembled PDU]
which yields
496958    599.344977000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.85    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
496959    599.345056000    10.14.10.85    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    9415
> http [ACK] Seq=2713 Ack=612899776 Win=1760768 Len=0
496960    599.345098000    10.14.10.85    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
Window Update] 9415 > http [ACK] Seq=2713 Ack=612899776 Win=1762048 Len=0
496961    600.011551000    10.14.10.85    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    9415
> http [FIN, ACK] Seq=2713 Ack=612899776 Win=1762048 Len=0
496962    600.025110000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.85    TCP    60    http
> 9415 [ACK] Seq=612899776 Ack=2714 Win=12288 Len=0

So that's interesting that it's also at a TCP zero window, but like the
1.7.14 failure, there's nothing special about that one; there are several
before it and many after it.

>From 2013-12-17, 1.7.13 (WANdisco again), http-timeout=180, ra_neon:
380006    238.310421000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
380007    238.310501000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    12926
> http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=464948988 Win=1280 Len=0
380008    *REF*    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1334    [TCP
Window Full] Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
380009    0.200088000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 12926 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=464950268 Win=0 Len=0
380010    0.456070000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 12926 [ACK] Seq=464950267 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
380011    0.456130000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 12926 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=464950268 Win=0 Len=0
380012    0.953776000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 12926 [ACK] Seq=464950267 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
380013    0.953813000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 12926 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=464950268 Win=0 Len=0
380014    1.935785000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 12926 [ACK] Seq=464950267 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
380015    1.935818000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 12926 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=464950268 Win=0 Len=0
380016    2.018723000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
Window Update] 12926 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=464950268 Win=2472960 Len=0
380017    2.032298000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
which yields
444920    179.032704000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
444921    179.032758000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    12926
> http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=545077309 Win=198656 Len=0
444922    179.889276000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
Window Update] 12926 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=545077309 Win=905216 Len=0
444923    180.088824000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    12926
> http [FIN, ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=545077309 Win=905216 Len=0
444924    180.103081000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    http
> 12926 [ACK] Seq=545077309 Ack=2152 Win=10240 Len=0

>From 2013-12-16, same as 2013-12-17:
178168    140.424974000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
178169    140.425010000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    33813
> http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220218202 Win=1280 Len=0
178170    140.658514000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1334
[TCP Window Full] Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
178171    140.858753000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178172    141.119647000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178173    141.119690000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178174    141.627353000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178175    141.627385000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178176    142.628795000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178177    142.628839000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178178    144.619506000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178179    144.619574000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178180    148.585393000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178181    148.585447000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178182    156.502765000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178183    *REF*    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178184    15.821813000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    [TCP
Keep-Alive] http > 33813 [ACK] Seq=220219481 Ack=2151 Win=10240 Len=0
178185    15.821845000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
ZeroWindow] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=0 Len=0
178186    43.448451000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
Window Update] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=220219482 Win=2856448 Len=0
178187    43.461842000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
which yields
291476    173.722084000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    HTTP    1434
Continuation or non-HTTP traffic
291477    173.722125000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    33813
> http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=361058243 Win=52224 Len=0
291478    178.322196000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
Window Update] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=361058243 Win=1489664 Len=0
291479    178.364417000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    [TCP
Window Update] 33813 > http [ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=361058243 Win=3042816 Len=0
291480    180.974205000    10.14.10.32    10.222.3.88    TCP    54    33813
> http [FIN, ACK] Seq=2151 Ack=361058243 Win=3042816 Len=0
291481    180.988706000    10.222.3.88    10.14.10.32    TCP    60    http
> 33813 [ACK] Seq=361058243 Ack=2152 Win=10240 Len=0

Nice to see the exponential backoff at work during the TCP zero window.

Maybe this is a red herring. I do find it unusual that all the http timeout
start points seem to be during TCP zero windows.

...Stu

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