Well, the trick is that Spring would have to know "when" to reattach the objects (before the persistent property is used). Since they don't have Tapestry support, then they can't exactly know that. As far as I know, nobody has ever done the "POJO rollback" stuff before. I asked specifically about it in the Hibernate forum and I've posted a Jira issue. Neither one got much traffic really (other than "use merge and keep the original objects around in case all goes haywire").
As of right now, I don't know of any comparison charts for Tapernate, Hivetranse, and Honeycomb. Marcus (the Honeycomb guy) and I have spoken in the past about maybe putting our heads together to put "conversation" support into Tapernate and then migrating Honeycomb to use Tapernate. Since it's a "public" project now, we may be able to more easily do that. I would love to see Hivetranse move over to Tapernate too. Maybe we can all three (Jean-Francois, Marcus, and I) get together and try to come up with *the* way to do Tapestry/Hibernate integration. James -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:28 AM To: Tapestry users Subject: Tapernate and Spring Hi all, In a recent different thread, the question about "Why use Tapernate if you use Spring" had come up as a side-question. It seems that some (Hibernate-related) features of Tapernate are alternatives to equivalent Spring features, while others are more Tapestry-related features (e.g. the DataSqueezer) that are not available in Spring, since Spring does not have explicit Tapestry-support. For some of the features listed on the feature-list at http://www.carmanconsulting.com/tapernate/ I am not sure which category they belong to: - Is there anything in Spring that deals with the reattachment-strategies ("Persistence Strategies" on the list)? - Is the "POJO-Rollback" functionality covered by Spring's Transaction facility? Does anybody know if there is a document with a comparison of the various frameworks/add-on libs that offer persistence-support (Tapernate, Hivetranse, Honeycomb, [Spring]; are there more?) for Tapestry? Like a quick features and pros/cons comparison? Thanks, MARK P.S. James, did you forget to list the transaction-strategies on the feature list, or did you leave it out intentionally? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]