1) getId() returns the id of the component you used in your code.
you get a problem when you use your component in a loop. then your
id would not be unique anymore... this is also true if you use the 
same component with the same id in another nested component. 
T5 uses the PageRenderSupport service to generate unique 
client-side ids even in loops. getClientId returns this generated unique 
id 

2) using heartbeat... you're right is possible too

3) why another service... i tend to generate  my js code only at 
the end of my page. therefore i first collect my data and at the end 
i do the js stuff like adding js event listener and the whole js wiring 
and such. so my mixins stay relatively dumb. i think its just a matter 
of taste :) 

i'm glad i could help. i thought i scared you off with my
previous post :)

g,
kris




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Sorry, but you seemed to grasp it well. I have some questions regarding 
your response:

Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
>  a few thoughts that
> come into my mind.....
>
> you can use a Mixin to determine the generated id of 
> a component by using @InjectComponent and reading
> getClientId.
Currently I'm @Inject-ing ComponentResources and using getId() - should 
be the same right?
> This Mixin would delgate the id to a service 
> that is contributed to PageRenderInitializer and is available
> through the @Environmental annotation. After your page 
> has been processed succesfully your service has
> the chance to generate the appropriate JS code for the
> ids it gathered (using PageRenderSupport or DocumentScriptBuilder) 
> ... and here is where you could add events and whatever :)
> 
Why would I delegate the id to a service? If I want to execute my 
mixin's rendering after the page is processed, couldn't I just use 
@MixinAfter or use a heartbeat, and then generate the JS code in the 
mixin? This is what I'm using the mixin for, to generate the appropriate 
JS code to count/monitor the key-presses.
> you can also use a Mixin to generate the counter field by
> intercepting the render phase methods and adding new nodes
> using the markupwriter... but i would'n do this because then you
> would have to make some assumptions on the generated 
> markup of the component your Mixin is attached to.
Exactly.
> Instead
> i'd write a component that will be passed to the mixin via a
> parameter. And this component can be placed whereever you
> want because the JS wiring will be delegated to the injected
> service of your mixin.
> 
I still don't see why I'd use a service to generate the JS instead of 
the mixin - it seems superfluous.
You understand exactly what I'm aiming for though, but I'm still not 
sure about the component that receives the events. The receiving 
component wouldn't need any server side validation or state - it only 
needs to provide the code to modify the document (counter, etc). I guess 
the first thing to decide is what kind of component, and how would they 
be wired up...

Sorry I'm still thinking this over, but your input helped and I'd like 
more if you have it :). At any rate, thanks!

chris

> i hope i've not confused you to much :) 
>
> g,
> kris
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> Hello again,
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> I've been working on a mixin that will count the characters typed into a 

> TextField or TextArea, as they are typed. It works fine but among other 
> things, I want to make it possible to control where and how user 
> feedback is displayed. My mixin just implements the counting logic, but 
> it should be possible for a user to use this mixin and configure it to 
> display a counter, implement text-length restriction (something not 
> possible for html text areas without JS), and implement notification. 
> How should I go about doing this? I could easily have a domId parameter 
> on the mixin that would receive the counter notifications, but I'd 
> rather make it easy for one to plug in their own logic and receive these 

> notifications as events. Obviously that part would happen in client-side 

> JS, but I want the framework to coordinate the two (ensuring the 
> components exist, etc). Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
>
> sincerely,
> chris
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