Would you give up already,
you are not a tapestry user,
tapestry 5 is very well documented, has a great mailing list,
has exhaustive unit tests...

If I don't like some framework, I don't use it and that's it.
Please have some respect to tapestry users and go away already.

Davor Hrg

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, I'm not disputing the fact that Tapestry is a good framework but all
> what I'm saying is the fact that at every major release there must be a
> whole rewrite from scratch with little or no regard to backward
> compatibility seems to me not a tool for prime time, or serious stuffs
> besides a Hello world applications. I consider Tapestry a tool for
> experimentation at the labs or schools where students are knowledge hungry
> to learn new things. If your business is based on a model that looks into
> the future then I'm afraid you'll be sorry to go with Tapestry. Because
> every year when you want to benefit from the evolution in Webframework
> technology, you'll have to start all over again- in otherwords throw away
> your earlier investment. Tapestry is good but there are far more better
> and
> excellent frameworks out there with genius people behind it that at each
> major release they face the challenge of backward compatibility head on
> and
> make everyone happy. They don't choose the easy route of starting all over
> again. That one even first year computer science students can do.
>
> Your's friendly,
>
> Rob
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jonathan Barker <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >
> > You may have a point or two.
> >
> > That what you describe as one of the best Internet applications has beta
> > status suggests that some beta code is as good as / better that other
> > production code.  I would have to agree.  I've had production apps
> running
> > on Tapestry alpha code for some time.
> >
> > The length of time that Gmail has been in beta is, however, a cop-out.
>  To
> > me, it's Google's way of saying, "Don't blame us."  Come on Google,
> stand
> > behind your application!  I suspect that will change as they market more
> > heavily to small business.
> >
> > It would have been more useful had you picked another application
> > framework
> > to compare to Tapestry for stability and time in beta.  Perhaps next
> time.
> >
> > That you personally don't do anything with Tapestry beyond a Hello World
> > application... oh, never mind, that's too easy a target.
> >
> > FYI, .02 cent = $0.0002
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:06 AM
> > > To: Tapestry users
> > > Subject: Re: T5: beta?
> > >
> > > Guys, stop the exagerations. Gmail, one of the best Internet
> application
> > > ever written still has a beta status. Unlike Tapestry,  Gmail has had
> > the
> > > beta status for years and would therefore trust it more than Tapestry
> > > which
> > > I personally won't do anything serious with it beyond a little bit
> more
> > > advanced Hello world application.
> > >
> > > My .02 cent.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Blower, Andy
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The fact that you're using T5 in the real world at this beta stage
> is
> > > very
> > > > good news for the upcoming release IMO, even if it delays the RC a
> > bit.
> > > (not
> > > > too much though I hope ;-)
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 09 April 2008 19:32
> > > > > To: Tapestry users
> > > > > Subject: Re: T5: beta?
> > > > >
> > > > > We're still not making a big deal; the transition from alpha to
> beta
> > > > > affects us more than the rest of the world.  I think we'll
> probably
> > > > > start seeing a new branch for 5.0 work and a switch-over of trunk
> to
> > > > > 5.1 pretty soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the meantime, I'm using 5.0.12 for a client project and finding
> a
> > > > > fair amount of rough edges and minor bugs.  I'd just as soon take
> > care
> > > > > of those in parallel with the client project since the end result
> is
> > a
> > > > > far more useable and finished 5.0 final.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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