Yeah ... when he published his article I asked him for the stats to back it up but no response!
Toby ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tapestry users <users@tapestry.apache.org> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May, 2008 3:16:02 PM Subject: Re: Tapestry users declined for the first time in 3 years, says this researh site ... Except for the part about him not being a friend of wicket, I agree. We've every reason to believe this moron is the same Emanuel whatever, who is known to be Francis Amanfo, and who we know a good bit about. Specifically, he is active in the wicket community and was mentioned in a 'thanks' for having contributed an accepted patch (http://wicket.sourceforge.net/wicket-1.1/changes-report.html - search for Francis Amanfo). I wouldn't dare say that the rantings of a such bird brain reflect the wicket community, but he is in some manner associated with it. chris Geoff Callender wrote: > A fine post, Jonathon, in every regard. I could not agree more. > > Geoff > > On 20/05/2008, at 9:41 AM, Jonathan Locke wrote: > >> >> I was just googling around the Internet for people with Wicket >> problems and I >> ran across this highly obnoxious post and felt I should comment. >> >> If the research was real, the poster would have linked to it. In fact, >> nobody has any real basis short of a widespread statistical survey for >> assessing the number of users of open source frameworks. Since I highly >> doubt anyone cares enough to do such an expensive survey, we can safely >> assume the poster is not only an anti-social ass but also a liar. And >> he is >> certainly not a friend of the Wicket or open source communities, as >> posts >> like this are damaging to everyone involved. In case I'm not making this >> clear enough "Rob Smeets": KNOCK IT OFF ALREADY! >> >> Open-source technologies should not be thought of as some kind of >> popularity >> contest. There are great technologies that languish in relative >> obscurity >> and mediocre ones that everyone seems to use. It is also objectively a >> healthy thing to have good alternatives as we don't live in a >> one-size-fits-all world. Tapestry is a solid framework with a long >> history, >> lots of users and plenty of development activity. I don't think >> Wicket or >> anything else will kill it and there's no reason to think it won't >> continue >> to flourish. Certainly it has been innovative for many years and is a >> cut >> above most of the rest... and honestly anything that helps to put a >> nail in >> the coffin of Struts is good for Java. >> >> Best, >> >> Jonathan Locke, Founder of Wicket >> >> >> Rob Smeets wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I don't mean to cause any depression or controversy but I saw this >>> research >>> results and thought you might want to know. Because this makes me worry >>> about the future of Tapestry. >>> According to the research, Tapestry users declined drastically by >>> 45% for >>> the first time in 3 years. I was very surprised because of the hype and >>> sound bytes from Howard and co. surrounding Tapestry 5. I understand >>> users >>> of Wicket grew by 55% whereas GWT grew by 85%. According to the source, >>> Adobe Flex users grew by 91% and that seems huge to me but warrants >>> it of >>> course. Even Howard admits Flex is one of the best. >>> I think I agree with this research just by looking at the traffic >>> here on >>> the Tapestry list as well as responses on Howard's blog site on all >>> topics >>> regarding Tapestry. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Yours friendly, >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-users-declined-for-the-first-time-in-3-years%2C-says-this-researh-site-...-tp17016042p17330503.html >> >> Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- http://thegodcode.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
