I want to take a look, but got two questions...
- you said you tried several VMs, does that include 1.6 ones?
- Does https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2708 seem related?

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Mike Wasserman
<mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca> wrote:
> We've tracked the problem further and it appears to be a thread safety 
> problem in the PageLoader class.
> We have pop-ups in our app that are seperate Tapestry pages and we think that 
> they may be clobbering each other when getting loaded.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Mike Wasserman [mailto:mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca]
> Sent: Thu 1/8/2009 10:15 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>
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> It now makes sense to me why the _components map is empty when getComponent() 
> is called.
> The map is never populated because no componentIds are found when 
> PageLoder.construct() tries to get them off the IComponentSpecification, 
> (PageLoader line: 358).
> The loop that in which the component creation happens is controlled by the 
> number of componentIds found.
>
> Now to figure out why there are no ids.
>
> Mike
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Mike Wasserman [mailto:mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca]
> Sent: Wed 1/7/2009 3:32 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>
>
>
> Actually I was wrong in what I wrote in my last email.
> addComponent() is NOT being called before getComponent() when the problem 
> arises.
>
> Mike
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Mike Wasserman [mailto:mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca]
> Sent: Wed 1/7/2009 2:47 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>
>
>
> Multiple pages are afflicted. It appears to happen primarily with the "shell" 
> component.
>
> We put logging in the getComponent() and the addComponent() methods of the 
> AbstractComponent class to output the Thread Id  and Component Id since the 
> adding of components and the getting of components seemed to be happening on 
> the same thread. We got output that indicated that addComponent() was being 
> called before getComponent(), but despite this we experienced the problem.  
> When we stopped the app with a break point (we're using Eclipse) and examined 
> the variables in the AbstractComponent class we found that the _components 
> Map was null, and _active was false.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hls...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 1/7/2009 2:33 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>
>
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> The _components field should be populated before your code gets invoked.
>
> Without looking at the code, it sounds like a Tapestry bug; but I
> can't imagine how a bug like that could have slipped through for so
> long that you're the only one who sees it.
>
> Does this happen to only a single page, or are multiple pages afflicted?
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Mike Wasserman
> <mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca> wrote:
>> I added the following code to the AbstractComponent.getComponent(String id) 
>> method:
>>
>>        while(_components == null) {
>>         try {
>>          System.out.println("SLEEPING");
>>    Thread.currentThread().sleep(500);
>>   } catch (InterruptedException e) {
>>    e.printStackTrace();
>>   }
>>        }
>>
>> I was hoping that by having the app sleep for a short period of time the 
>> _components HashMap would eventually be populated.
>> It seems to work for a while, but eventually the app ends up in a state of 
>> permanently sleeping (this seems to happen randomly, sometimes after 2 
>> tests, sometimes after 20 tests, sometimes after 50 tests).
>> So it appears that the _components HashMap is never populated under some 
>> circumstances.
>>
>> Anyone have any clue why this is happening, or how it is possible for this 
>> to happen in Tapestry?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Mike Wasserman [mailto:mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca]
>> Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 2:58 PM
>> To: Tapestry users
>> Subject: RE: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>>
>>
>>
>> I've tried a variety of JDKs and the problem happens with all of them.
>>
>> I've tracked it through the code and what it seems to come down to is that 
>> sometimes the _components Map in the AbstractComponent class is populated 
>> and other times it's null.
>> My guess at this point is that it's some sort of threading problem within 
>> Tapestry.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this problem?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Mike Wasserman [mailto:mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca]
>> Sent: Thu 12/25/2008 1:07 PM
>> To: Tapestry users
>> Subject: RE: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your response.
>> No, we didn't have this problem with 4.1.2
>>
>> I am off on holidays for a little while, but I will try your suggestion as 
>> soon as I get back.
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: andre...@gmail.com on behalf of Andreas Andreou
>> Sent: Wed 12/24/2008 3:11 PM
>> To: Tapestry users
>> Subject: Re: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>>
>>
>>
>> So, you weren't seeing this problem with 4.1.2 ?
>>
>> I'd be interesting if you could try with a 1.6 VM, but apart from that
>> and since you're getting this consistently, i'm wondering if you can try this
>> (which is based on some old reports I remember reading here):
>> - Start your app and before running the tests, try to visit all the affected
>> pages by hand (making sure they load fine) and only then fire the tests.
>> Do you see problems after that?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Mike Wasserman
>> <mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca> wrote:
>>> I've tried with JDK 1.5.0_10 and JDK 1.5.0_17 and I am experiencing the
>>> same problem with both.
>>> The Selenium tests are hitting the app pretty hard and I'm wondering if
>>> it's causing a threading problem within Tapestry.
>>> Isn't the component creation multi-threaded?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:hls...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 2:00 PM
>>> To: Tapestry users
>>> Subject: Re: Tapestry Upgrade problem
>>>
>>> What JDK are you running on?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Mike Wasserman
>>> <mike.wasser...@intelliware.ca> wrote:
>>>> I am upgrading from Tapestry 4.1.2 to Tapestry 4.1.6.
>>>> When I run my integration tests (using Selenium) I am get a error
>>> randomly.
>>>> I receive a org.apache.hivemind.ApplicationRuntimeException that
>>> indicates that given component (page) does not contain a component
>>> shell.
>>>> All of the affected pages have <html jwcid="shell"> which leads me to
>>> believe that I have specified a shell component.
>>>> I have tracked the problem into the PageLoader class, but since the
>>> problem is random it is very difficult to debug.
>>>> Is it possible that this is a threading problem?
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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