On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Adam Zimowski <zimowsk...@gmail.com> wrote: > When we were looking at your course Howard, seemed perfectly fit, > covering all basics of the framework, very well. Therefore, not much > to comment on your question IMO since it's hard to improve something > already very good.
Wel, thanks! > > However, I see a lot of value in offering an advanced course, focusing > mostly around IOC container, analyzing and explaining Tapestry source > code. Debugging the framework, and implementing advanced concepts, > such composition over inheritance, custom annotations, etc etc.... > You can imagine how difficult it is to devise examples that make sense, are encapsulated enough to be used in a lab or otherwise understood, but still represent the kinds of things that real applications require. I do go into quite a bit of detail on Tapestry internals (in the final session, which is not lab based), including all the request processing pipelines. Some of these things are better handled, I think, as custom mentoring sessions rather than my attempt at a one-size-fits-all course. > Good example of practical material for such advanced course would be > recent examples from Taha's blog. > > Adam > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Well ... based on these comments, I don't need to change a thing :-) >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Joost Schouten (ml) >> <joost...@jsportal.com> wrote: >>> In my early days I would have liked someone to have emphasized: >>> >>> - onActivate and onPassivate so I would have stuffed less into my sessions. >>> - How components can interact with their containers and @Environmental >>> services. I initially ended up building components that needed to know too >>> much about their containers. >>> - the power of Block's and how they are great for passing as parameters and >>> page/component buildups. How they can elminiate the need for template t:if >>> tags when used with delegate's >>> - And how easy it is to build a @Inject'able tapestry service to wrap your >>> legacy code. A new user might be a bit put off when confronted with >>> tapestry-hibernate, tapestry-security if they already have all this in place >>> in spring or something else. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> Joost >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/11 7:10 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm planning on rewriting my Tapestry training materials for Tapestry >>>> 5.3, once it is stable. As >>>> >>>> It will still be a four day course, but I want to change the approach >>>> and emphasis. As always, I try to balance the needs of Tapestry (and >>>> even Java Web Developer) new comers with the desire to keep it useful >>>> and interesting for Tapestry journeymen and masters. >>>> >>>> Think back to when you were first learning Tapestry 5 ... what kinds >>>> of things would have made the biggest difference in your first few >>>> days using Tapestry? >>>> >>>> ... and, BTW, my current course still really rocks and my next public >>>> teach is coming up in London, starting July on 26: >>>> http://skillsmatter.com/course/java-jee/tapestry-web-development >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard M. Lewis Ship >> >> Creator of Apache Tapestry >> >> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >> >> (971) 678-5210 >> http://howardlewisship.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator of Apache Tapestry The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! (971) 678-5210 http://howardlewisship.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
