On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:40 AM, André Warnier <a...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> We're still one level remote of thinking of any implementation, and trying > to understand > 1) how exactly websockets works > Most websocket implementations (RI/glassfish, atmosphere, tomcat, etc...) are open source, so diving in the code is definitely an 'option' for understanding how websockets work. > 2) if that general "technology" is, today, sufficently mature and stable > for us to develop an application based on it, or we should wait another 6 > months, a year,.. > honestly, I think it is sufficiently mature, since websockets are becoming the trend (incorporated in RI/glassfish/JavaEE7, I've seen recent tomcat 7.0.35+ releases that had websocket changes, no need to mention how 'alive' atmosphere is...smile). i think it is more a question of feasibility for you and your team to join in on the trend/fun... > But we are a small outfit, and the fact that Google may be using it (with > a backup team of 50 developers to shore up their implementation) does not > really help us. > funny. google's backup team of 50 developers versus how many open source developers using/coding atmosphere, tomcat, glassfish-websockets (grizzly?). :) > > The reason why I put this question on the Tomcat users list is because it > is a list I'm subscribed to, because I know that it is a good-quality list > with little "noise", because I know that Mark and Rainer are - to various > degrees probably - involved in Tomcat support for websockets. +1 > for the moment the general information available on websockets seems > otherwise a bit "scarce". > > true, but websocket open source code is plentiful and available. :) > This being said, the information already gathered here on this list tends > to vindicate my posting on it. It has already cleared up a number of points > for us, and added a couple of questions which we did not think of asking. > Thanks. > > IMO (or maybe based on fact/history), not much chatter about websockets on tomcat user list, but if you find your way to atmosphere google groups mail list, there will be plenty of chatter over there. I will not encourage you to venture over to atmosphere google groups and ask questions such as this, since I'm sure the desire/goal over there is to post topics related to 'using atmosphere and any questions/issues while attempting to use atmosphere and atmosphere's trunk (latest version(s))'. i'm definitely someone that love to use latest versions of open source software. sometime ago, when I migrated from glassfish to tomcat/tomee (so I could do websockets, um, more effortlessly in my web app), I came across the fact that Jeanfrancois (Atmosphere developer/committer) had something to do with the websocket implementation in glassfish/RI, i think it is called grizzly, but I could be wrong. I'm not as versed with glassfish/RI as I used to be..when I was a glassfish 'user'. :) FYI, at the moment, i'm not writing low level websocket client/server code; i'm using PrimeFaces Push only/entirely, which is PrimeFaces + atmosphere. :) definitely not trying to encourage you to use a certain framework; one thing I like about Tomcat list is that there is a wide range of topics that I can listen to and/or chime-in on, when interested and when feasible. :) I love this user community (mail list).
