On 31/01/2022 14:54, Alan F wrote:
Many thanks Chris,

Don't laugh I was looking at those values after Keiichi kindly mentioned this 
too (thankyou!)  and was thinking hmm where is 15 no mention! Ok makes sense 
now.

Im trying to find out why we chose static, I think it was a guess at trying to 
stop the multicast interference from other hosts. I think we just had it all 
set wrong to start with.

Looking at many online examples like here 
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-9.0-doc/cluster-howto.html is what i looked 
would this suffice?

If you could recommend the params I need just for two hosts to talk without 
interference ie specifying group or unique id etc.

This is a working static cluster example from my 4-node test cluster.

https://people.apache.org/~markt/dev/server-static-cluster-example.xml

Things you'll need to change:
- the jvmRoute on the Engine element
  - must be unique for each node
  - must match the reverse proxy config for sticky sessions to work
- you'll only need two members
- LocalMember needs to be correct on each node
- The address attribute of the receiver needs to be correct on each node

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
Sent: 31 January 2022 14:46
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Session replication

All,

On 1/31/22 08:04, Keiichi Fujino wrote:
If you use StaticMembershipService, you must set
Cluster#channelStartOptions to 15 (default).

To spell that out (since the docs aren't very explicit), the value of "15" is 
the combination of the following flags:

SND_RX_SEQ (1) - Starts the data receiver.
SND_TX_SEQ (2) - Starts the data transmitter ("sender").
MBR_RX_SEQ (4) - Starts the membership receiver ("listener").
MBR_TX_SEQ (8) - Starts the membership transmitter ("broadcaster").
          |= 15 (0xf)

I'm curious why, if one is using static membership, are the membership 
transmitter and receiver flags required? It seems to be that the membership 
should remain static and therefore no membership comms shuould be required. Are 
those important to ensure that the cluster members (through static) are 
actually present during operation?

-chris

2022年1月31日(月) 16:47 Alan F <shiva...@hotmail.com>:

OK with your advice I tried what I thought would work from example
and doesn't at all. The old example below works but this doesn’t even
detect members.

Below is example to which Im using on both nodes which are remote to
eachother.


<Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
             channelSendOptions="8" channelStartOptions = "3">
        <Manager className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.DeltaManager"
             expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
             notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>

        <Channel
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">

              <Membership
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMembershipService">
                  <Member
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
                            port="4110"
                            host="local-tomcat"
                            domain="tomcat-pc2"

uniqueId="{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,0}" />
          <Member
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
                            port="4110"
                            host="remote-tomcat"
                            domain="tomcat-pc2"

uniqueId="{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15}" />
              </Membership>

             <Receiver
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
                       address="local-tomcat"
                       port="4110"
                       autoBind="9"
                       selectorTimeout="2000"
                       maxThreads="6"/>

             <Sender
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
                  <Transport
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender"/>
             </Sender>

             <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpPingInterceptor"
staticOnly="true"/>
             <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"
/>
             <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatchInterceptor"/>
             <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.ThroughputInterceptor"/>
             <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.StaticMembershipInterceptor">
             </Interceptor>

        </Channel>

        <Valve className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.ReplicationValve"
filter=""/>
        <Valve
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteBinderValve"/>

                    <Deployer
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.deploy.FarmWarDeployer"
                      tempDir="/opt/tomcat/war-temp/"
       deployDir="/opt/tomcat/war-deploy/"
                      watchDir="/opt/tomcat/war-listen/"
                      watchEnabled="true"/>
        <ClusterListener
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.ClusterSessionListener"/>
   </Cluster>


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
Sent: 28 January 2022 18:15
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Session replication

On 28/01/2022 17:05, Alan F wrote:
We are currently getting traffic from all cluster members in other
environments using .staticmember opposed to multicast can I confirm
why this is see below.

What do we need to set here for a clustered pair to make them unique
and talk to eachother only without seeing traffic from other members
in Catalina.out

This is how they are currently configured as you can see only
difference
between nodes is the receiver and member ips are reversed. Im
concerned uniqueID is the same, do we also need to specify domain?

uniqueID should be unique at least within the subnet, ideally globally.

Yes, you should use a separate domain for each cluster.

Looking at your config:

You are missing the local member definition
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-10.0-doc/config/cluster-interceptor.
html#Static_Membership

The deployer should be defined under the cluster, not under an interceptor.

Mark


WE have hostname A and B if you could check below:

HOSTNAME A config

<!--
         <Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"/>
         -->

<Cluster className="org.apache.catalina.ha.tcp.SimpleTcpCluster"
channelSendOptions="8">
             <Manager
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.DeltaManager"
                      expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
                      notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>


<Channel className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
           <Sender
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitte
r">
               <Transport
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSen
der" />
           </Sender>
           <Receiver
               address="hostnameA"
               autoBind="0"

className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
               maxThreads="6"
               port="4100"
               selectorTimeout="5000"
           />
           <!-- <Interceptor
className="com.dm.tomcat.interceptor.DisableMulticastInterceptor" />
-->
           <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpPingInterceptor"
staticOnly="true"/>
           <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"
/>
           <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.StaticMember
shipInterceptor">
               <Member

className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
port="4100"
                   host="HostnameB"
                   uniqueId="{0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1}"
               />
             <Deployer
className="org.apache.catalina.ha.deploy.FarmWarDeployer"
                       tempDir="/opt/tomcat/war-temp/"
        deployDir="/opt/tomcat/war-deploy/"
                       watchDir="/opt/tomcat/war-listen/"
                       watchEnabled="true"/>

           </Interceptor>
           <Interceptor
className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatchInterceptor"
/>
       </Channel>
       <Valve

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