HI Mark/Chris,
I wanted to check if you could review the below template and see if you have 
any suggestions on the syntax
I did try a lot of different options but none of them worked.

Below is another example

<CacheStrategy className="org.apache.catalina.WebResourceRoot$CacheStrategy" 
nocache="C:\xxx\tomcat\webapps\mobiledoc\WEB-INF\lib\abc.jar"/>

And I got the below error message. It is not the same for each variation but 
the above variation gave me this exception.

07-Aug-2024 17:53:21.774 SEVERE [main] 
org.apache.tomcat.util.digester.Digester.startElement Begin event threw 
exception
        java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: 
org.apache.catalina.WebResourceRoot$CacheStrategy.<init>()
                at java.lang.Class.getConstructor0(Class.java:3082)
                at java.lang.Class.getConstructor(Class.java:1825)
                at 
org.apache.tomcat.util.digester.ObjectCreateRule.begin(ObjectCreateRule.java:103)
                at 
org.apache.tomcat.util.digester.Digester.startElement(Digester.java:1277)
                at 
com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.parsers.AbstractSAXParser.startElement(AbstractSAXParser.java:509)

Regards

Jalaj P Asher
-----Original Message-----
From: Jalaj Asher
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 5:50 PM
To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes

Thanks Mark and Chris for the suggestions , I created a template to test out 
and wanted to confirm if this is the correct syntax


<Resources>

<CacheStrategy  className="org.apache.catalina.WebResourceRoot$CacheStrategy" 
nocache="false" abc.jar />

 <Resources>

Does something like this work? With me wanting to caching a specific jar ?

Or would I need to go with

<Resources>
<CacheStrategy className="org.apache.catalina.WebResourceRoot$CacheStrategy" 
nocache="false" c:\tomcat\webapps\Web-INF\lib\abc.jar />

<Resources>

Regards

Jalaj P Asher




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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 5:29 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes

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On 7/29/24 05:37, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 26/07/2024 22:19, Jalaj Asher wrote:
>> Thanks Christopher.
>> But can we also consider allowing caching of different types as
>> caching jar files is very valuable as that avoids jar scans real time
>> when the production is under load .
>>
>> But trying to cache static content, which can be cached separately on
>> client end, or jsps which are compiled and cached in work folder
>> don’t need to be loaded in memory as they force a significant
>> increase in memory utilization.
>
> Sounds like you need to provide a custom
> org.apache.catalina.WebResourceRoot$CacheStrategy implementation.
>
> See https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-11.0-doc/config/resources.html
> towards the end of the page and
> https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-11.0-doc/api/org/apache/catalina/WebR
> esourceRoot.CacheStrategy.html

Oh, that's interesting. So for example you could implement something like this:

@Override

public boolean noCache(String path) {
     return !path.endsWith(".jar");
}

?

This would only cache JAR files (and case-sensitively I might add).

-chris

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2024 12:35 PM
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes
>>
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>> Jalaj,
>>
>> On 7/19/24 14:28, Jalaj Asher wrote:
>>> This is the warning message we get when cachingAllowed is not set to
>>> false
>>>
>>> org.apache.catalina.webresources.Cache.getResource Unable to add the
>>> resource at [/WEB-INF/classes/] to the cache for web application
>>> [/xxxxx] because there was insufficient free space available after
>>> evicting expired cache entries - consider increasing the maximum
>>> size of the cache.
>>
>> Okay, I see it. Specifically, it is a WARN message which is usually
>> not suppressed in a production configuration.
>>
>> @markt @remm what do you think about making this another of those
>> "WARN the first time, DEBUG thereafter" kinds of messages?
>>
>> It seems like if a cache is full, the operator SHOULD get a
>> notification, but if the cache is thrashing, printing an error a huge
>> number of times doesn't seem like it's terribly helpful. It just
>> fills the disk.
>>
>> -chris
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jalaj Asher
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 1:30 PM
>>> To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
>>> Subject: RE: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes
>>>
>>>> space". Which was very quickly filling up our disk space as well as
>>>> increasing disk IO causing latency concerns.
>>> 1. Also interesting. Can you post one of those messages here? Was
>>> there a stack trace shown or just the warning?
>>>
>>>       It is just the warning. No stack trace. I will work on
>>> recreating this since all our environments has this disabled.
>>>
>>> 2. Interesting. How much static content do you have? This seems like
>>> a good use-case for a reverse-proxy to handle your static    content
>>> for you.
>>> We have not collated the complete size of it. But are reasons we
>>> cannot do that.
>>>
>>> Also I was reviewing some older heap dumps and I could see that the
>>> jars are getting cached in tomcat even with cachingAllowed=false.
>>>
>>> Also this is not a consistent issue once it happens it takes
>>> sometime for the stack to go away as well as post tomcat reboots the
>>> problem goes away with the same settings and we do see that the wars
>>> are getting deployed during tomcat startup as well.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jalaj P Asher
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 10:05 AM
>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes
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>>> Jalaj,
>>>
>>> On 7/15/24 18:18, Jalaj Asher wrote:
>>>> We ran into 2 issues
>>>> 1. We needed to allocate significant amount of -XMX  for heap
>>>> space, if we allowed caching, since increasing memory by a few
>>>> hundred MB as well was not enough.
>>> Interesting. How much static content do you have? This seems like a
>>> good use-case for a reverse-proxy to handle your static content for you.
>>>
>>>> 2. Also with the setting being  enabled, it generated logs stating
>>>> "could not add a resource <resource name> as there wasn’t enough
>>>> space". Which was very quickly filling up our disk space as well as
>>>> increasing disk IO causing latency concerns.
>>> Also interesting. Can you post one of those messages here? Was there
>>> a stack trace shown or just the warning?
>>>
>>> -chris
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 4:19 PM
>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes
>>>>
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>>>> Jalaj,
>>>>
>>>> On 7/15/24 15:03, Jalaj Asher wrote:
>>>>> Yeah I was wondering the same as this has been in place since a
>>>>> few years now atleast 4 years since cachingAllowed had some
>>>>> changes in tomcat 8 which was resulting in it caching all static
>>>>> content as well as jsps and jars and our though process was if we
>>>>> have static content being cached on the client end and jsps in the
>>>>> work folder each time on access we don’t need the cache.
>>>> Does the cache actively hurt you?
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to cache just the jars and not every thing else in
>>>>> memory ?
>>>>
>>>> I think the short answer is "no there is not a way to do this" but
>>>> I may be wrong.
>>>>
>>>> The long answer might be "maybe, but you will have to play games
>>>> with <PreResources> and <PostResources> and maybe some other things
>>>> to get it working.
>>>>
>>>> I would save yourself some complexity and simply enable caching.
>>>>
>>>> -chris
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 4:02 PM
>>>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Jalaj,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/12/24 10:19, Jalaj Asher wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Chuck and John for the responses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a few points from the things you highlighted and wanted me
>>>>>> to check 1. unpackwar is set to true. I checked and was informed
>>>>>> that we need
>>>>>>        that to be true for a specific war file.
>>>>>> 2. cachingAllowed=false. We keep it as false across the board.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well... that'll do it. In order to locate resources, Tomcat needs
>>>>> to sift through all of those JAR files every time. Scanning ZIP
>>>>> files is expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to reconsider this particular setting in your
>>>>> environment.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the reason I shared 2 different stacks is to highlight that
>>>>>> the problem does not occur post restart or with any specific part
>>>>>> of the application like the parser going in a loop but it kicks
>>>>>> of at random times impacting multiple tomcats. But all having the
>>>>>> same stack waiting on archiveresourceset and java.util.zip.
>>>>> My only question would be "why is this only now coming to your
>>>>> attention? Things should have been behaving this way .. for a long
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am working on getting both types of stacks to share here as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Had a question we just have one war file if unpack war is
>>>>>> triggered why should it impact loading jars from the entire webapp lib ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because WEB-INF/lib is full of JAR files that need to be scanned
>>>>> every tie you try to load ... anything. Since you have disabled
>>>>> caching, it has to re-check every file for every resource-load
>>>>> request.
>>>>>
>>>>> -chris
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Chuck Caldarale <n82...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 6:19 PM
>>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List <users@tomcat.apache.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Reg: tomcat CPU spikes
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 17:02, Jalaj Asher
>>>>>>> <jalaj.as...@eclinicalworks.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharing another stack to see if this can give any more
>>>>>>> insights.this thread is the tomcat main thread was loading about
>>>>>>> 65MB of data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "main" #1 prio=5 os_prio=0
>>>>>>>        java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
>>>>>>>                   at java.util.zip.ZipFile.getEntry(Native Method)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> java.util.zip.ZipFile.getEntry(ZipFile.java:328)
>>>>>>>                   - locked <0x00000000a1b04418> (a
>>>>>>> java.util.jar.JarFile)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> java.util.jar.JarFile.getEntry(JarFile.java:253)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> java.util.jar.JarFile.getJarEntry(JarFile.java:236)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.webresources.AbstractSingleArchiveResourceSet.getArchiveEntry(AbstractSingleArchiveResourceSet.java:97)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.webresources.AbstractArchiveResourceSet.getResource(AbstractArchiveResourceSet.java:249)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.webresources.StandardRoot.getResourceInternal(StandardRoot.java:272)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.webresources.StandardRoot.getResource(StandardRoot.java:213)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.webresources.StandardRoot.getClassLoaderResource(StandardRoot.java:220)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoaderBase.findClassInternal(WebappClassLoaderBase.java:2348)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoaderBase.findClass(WebappClassLoaderBase.java:875)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoaderBase.loadClass(WebappClassLoaderBase.java:1376)
>>>>>>>                   - locked <0x00000000f24fc728> (a java.lang.Object)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoaderBase.loadClass(WebappClassLoaderBase.java:1220)
>>>>>>>                   at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
>>>>>>>                   at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:348)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> com.sun.beans.finder.ClassFinder.findClass(ClassFinder.java:67)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> com.sun.beans.finder.ClassFinder.findClass(ClassFinder.java:110)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> com.sun.beans.finder.InstanceFinder.instantiate(InstanceFinder.java:93)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> com.sun.beans.finder.InstanceFinder.find(InstanceFinder.java:66)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> java.beans.Introspector.findExplicitBeanInfo(Introspector.java:448)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> java.beans.Introspector.<init>(Introspector.java:398)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> java.beans.Introspector.getBeanInfo(Introspector.java:173)
>>>>>>>                   at
>>>>>>> org.springframework.beans.CachedIntrospectionResults.getBeanInfo
>>>>>>> (C
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>> h
>>>>>>> edIntrospectionResults.java:255)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there some configuration setting in Spring that would disable
>>>>>> caching? (I’m not really knowledgeable about Spring.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There should be more in the stack trace that would show what’s
>>>>>> triggering the getBeanInfo() calls. Tomcat won’t be doing the
>>>>>> lookup unless something asks for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - Chuck
>>>>>>
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