> From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> I'd too like to know which communities are "out-innovating" java?

My first like-for-like example would be .Net - and for those who don't
think this is a community compared to Java, note that both have large
companies supporting them.  To anticipate an argument, comparing Java to
PHP or Ruby simply "because it's not Microsoft" is specious.  One should
compare like with like.

My second like-for-not-like community would be PHP.  It's a community
that doesn't have major corporate backing, but the rate of innovation of
packages in the PHP world is very high indeed.  I feel it's not
necessarily ideal for large sites - where this thread started - due to
its present implementation, but it's certainly good for small to medium
sites.

> To stay in you example, comparing php (or ruby for this matter) to
> java is like comparing bicycles with cars.
> Sure its fun to make a ride on sunday. Sure it's ok to bike to the
> office on a sunny day, if the office is 30 minutes away.
> But trying to deliver a fridge to the customer with a bike is 
> rather stupid.

But realising that not everybody requires a 4-seater car, and that (say)
a Smart car is relevant, is *precisely* an example of out-innovation.

> Btw. I'm ashamed that I don't know it, but does C# has a similar
> concept to ThreadLocals?

Yes, since 1.0.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/6sby1byh(VS.80).aspx

                - Peter

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