Ok... beginning to think I'm the only one reading here... yes it is a kludge, and I doubt very much whether changing anything in catalina.policy will do anything in this case... because the security manager is probably incorporated in the web-app class loader... and yes this and the documentation makes sense when protecting Tomcat from a rouge web-app.... but thats not what I'm trying to do... I'm trying to protect an embedded application FROM TOMCAT itself. The code I have shown you is TOMCATS CODE... not the embedded application code which is using tomcat as a library... or a Web-App's code.

Ok... think we got crossed lines somewhere... but just to recap... Tomcats System.Exit code kills the client calling tomcat... its rude ;) I suppose I could write a class loader in the client... tell it to stop System.Exits in a custom security manager... and then load up tomcat using that classloader... little bit too much work dont you think? All I think is happening is that those System.Exits make a lot of sense from a server perspective... but not from an embedded perspective... its not a disaster, it doenst make tomcat bad (its great), its just something to think about....


----- Original Message ----- From: "Pid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Johnny Kewl wrote:
Ha ha... I think this is a kludge,

Using a SecurityManager is a kludge?

but ok, I have "read"... so help
me... I want to stop Tomcat calling System.Exit(1)... what do I need to do to the catalina.policy file to do this? I imagine that instead of the embedded app shutting down the user will now get a security exception, which to me is wrong... but hey, I'll try it.

The 'System.exit()' example is the usual one, as you will remember from when you read the documentation:

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/security-manager-howto.html

p


----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Crowther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:21 PM
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From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Imagine I make a library for you... and your user application
does something
wrong... and then my library calls System.Exit and shuts down
the JVM... how
you going to fix that with a security manager??

The security manager can prevent the call from succeeding.  Read, don't
just assume it can't work.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/lang/System.html#exit(int)
will give you hint on the fact that exit can be prevented by a security
manager, for example.

- Peter

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