Hi Martin
could you briefly explain the need for 2 apache webservers?
I wish I could :) We currently have our secure web apps fronted by an IBM
product, which seems to be a munged version of Apache. This has the
Cleartrust pluin in place and working fine. In the DMZ we have various web
servers, and the system architects are insisting that these servers do an
independent Cleartrust authentication. As we want to put a Tomcat machine or
three in this zone, it would need to be fronted by Apache to acheive
independent Cleartrust authentication. This sounds like overkill to me...
Regards
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: Cleartrust RSA integration
could you briefly explain the need for 2 apache webservers?
thanks,
Martin
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:22:44 +1200
From: rmcnu...@clear.net.nz
Subject: Re: Cleartrust RSA integration
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Hi Andre
Thanks for the reply.
I had a long discussion with our architecture group today. Basically they
want Cleartrust authentication at the web gateway (in place now) and again
at the web server. The gateway (an Apache instance) and the Tomcat server
would not be on the same physical box - they would be in separate security
zones.
An option is to use yet another Apache instance fronting Tomcat. I'm not
sure what sort of performance hit this would be (i.e. Apache -> Apache ->
Tomcat) - do you have any insight?
Regards
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "André Warnier" <a...@ice-sa.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: Cleartrust RSA integration
> Ron McNulty wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> We are thinking of bringing some of our apps off proprietary J2EE
>> servers
>> to Tomcat. We would be deploying on Tomcat 6 (latest), JVM 1.6 and
>> Linux
>> on a VM (not sure of versions). One of the requirements is to
>> authenticate using RSA Cleartrust.
>>
>>> From my reading, Tomcat does not support this. The recommended
>>> solution
>>> is
>> to front Tomcat with Apache, and let Apache do the Cleartrust
>> integration.
>>
>> The links I have found are a bit ancient - are my assumptions still
>> correct? Also, our system architects seem to think this setup is
>> insufficiently secure - comments?
>>
> Assuming the Apache Cleartrust authentication is secure..
> If Apache authenticates a request, and if the Apache/Tomcat connector is
> mod_jk, then the authenticated user-id is propagated from Apache to
> Tomcat
> (*).
> (Additionals info could be propagated via additional HTTP headers, or
> "request attributes").
> If the link between Apache and Tomcat is secure (like for example both
> run
> on the same machine and the connection is purely internal), then there
> is
> no reason why this would be less secure.
>
>
> (*) whether Tomcat actually uses it, is determined by the
> "tomcatAuthentication" attribute of the AJP <Connector>.
>
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