Thanks for the link, useful reading, and thanks for the explanation too. Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Shay Rojansky [mailto:r...@roji.org] Sent: 28 June 2010 13:54 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Classloading Nope, it doesn't... Your webapp's classloader delegates to the common classloader when it can't find something in the webapp - this is the point of having the common classloader! For example, it allows you to share some common infrastructure (e.g. DB driver) between several webapps. So classes in your webapp can depend on common classes, but not the other way around. For further reading: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/class-loader-howto.html, and see also Java classloaders and chaining in general. Shay On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Ockleford Paul (NHS Connecting for Health) <paul.ocklef...@nhs.net> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks very much for confirming that and for providing me with more > information. One thing I still find strange though is how SupplementaryEdit > (in the webapp) is able to call a class loaded by the "common" classloader? > Does it not work the other way round as well? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shay Rojansky [mailto:r...@roji.org] > Sent: 28 June 2010 13:35 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Classloading > > Hi Paul. > > Yes, this is the normal behavior. As you found out, Tomcat uses a different > classloader for the "common" classes than that used for for loading your > webapp classes. > > Basically, when your application loads PracCalc, Tomcat looks first in the > "common" directory and loads it from there. Then, since the reference to > SupplementaryEdit is from PracCalc, PracCalc's classloader (the "common" > one) is used to search for the dependency, SupplementaryEdit. Since the > "common" classloader knows nothing about your webapp's classes, a > ClassNotFoundException is thrown. > > You have to plan well how to manage your JARs and classes. One solution is > to put all dependencies in your webapp, another is to make sure that if you > put a dependency in Tomcat's common directory, all of the dependency's > dependencies must also be there. > > Shay > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Ockleford Paul (NHS Connecting for Health) > <paul.ocklef...@nhs.net> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I had a problem this morning that took me a while to sort out, and now I > > know what the issue is I was hoping somebody could explain why the > problem > > was happening. I assume it is because one class had been loaded by a > > different classloader, and so wasn't available to the second class. > > > > I have 2 classes in different packages but within the same web > application: > > > > SupplementaryEdit - webapps/WEB-INF/classes > > PracCalc - webapps/WEB-INF/classes > > > > I added a method to SupplementaryEdit and then called it within this > class > > and it worked ok. Next I created an object of SupplementaryEdit in > PracCalc > > and tried to call this new method. I got a classnotfoundexception for > > SupplementaryEdit at the point of instantiation and I was struggling to > find > > out why. > > > > After spending ages trying different things I started looking through the > > common classes in tomcat and found that someone had previously created a > > symlink to the package PracCalc is in there. I read a little on tomcat > > classloading and came to the conclusion that this was causing PracCalc to > be > > loaded by a different loader to SupplementaryEdit. > > > > If someone could confirm this that would be good, and also could someone > > explain why the class in the web app isn't available to the class > referenced > > in common/lib? > > > > I don't understand because I get a runtime exception in the block where > the > > object is created, and not on initial class use (as I used the class > without > > triggering the code block fine), and I also don't understand why at > runtime > > the common classloader is not able to resolve the class, as I have tested > by > > calling a class that creates a SupplementaryEdit object before trying > from > > PracCalc and it still didn't work. > > > > To resolve the issue I moved the method into PracCalc as this still made > > sense logically and the code now works, just looking for some general > > help\guidance. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************************************************** > > > > This message may contain confidential information. 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