Some of the answer below may be off.  I was reading an IBM doc that "quoted" a 
sun doc that said permgen is part of heap.
Jconsole lists it as non-heap.
Also check that you have enough user-space memory left to allocate an entire GB 
to Tomcat.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:30 AM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: Max value of MaxPermSize
> 
> The permgen is actually a section of the heap.
> So if you want a 1GB permgen, you'll need at least a 1GB heap size, but
> you better make it much bigger than that, since you'll need more room
> for all the little things, like variable, objects, etc.
> If you really need that large of a permgen, then you should probably
> take a good look at your app to figure out why.
> 
> (Actually, you probably need only a little more than the default 128Mb
> of PermGen, but your heap doesn't have enough room to expand it.  Try
> changing you settings below to -Xmx768m -XX:MaxPermSize:256m, and see
> if that helps.)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: abhishek jain [mailto:abhishek.netj...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:09 AM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Cc: Christopher Schultz
> > Subject: Re: Max value of MaxPermSize
> >
> > hi,
> > I think the following line in
> > /usr/local/jakarta/apache-tomcat-5.5.28/bin/catalina.sh
> >
> > if [ -r "$CATALINA_HOME"/bin/tomcat-juli.jar ]; then
> >   JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -server -Xms512m -Xmx512m -
> XX:MaxPermSize=1024m
> > -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager"
> >
> > LOGGING_CONFIG="-
> >
> Djava.util.logging.config.file=$CATALINA_BASE/conf/logging.properties"
> > else
> >   # Bugzilla 45585
> >   LOGGING_CONFIG="-Dnop"
> > fi
> >
> >
> >
> > is  not making any differnece onthe memory consumed,as if i do
> >
> > # free -m
> >              total       used       free     shared    buffers
> > cached
> > Mem:          3072        696       2375          0          0
> > 0
> > -/+ buffers/cache:        696       2375
> > Swap:            0          0          0
> >
> >
> > the used space is 696 mb, where as , it should allocate more than
> that
> > to
> > java itself,
> >
> > pl. advice how can i allocate more memory to java , as i am getting
> > permgenerrorof memory (OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space)
> >
> > thanks
> > abhi
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Christopher Schultz <
> > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> >
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> > > Abhishek,
> > >
> > > On 3/21/2011 6:14 AM, abhishek jain wrote:
> > > >>> also am i writing these values in the correct location,
> > > >>
> > > >> With the tomcat base startup scripts, this should be in
> > > >> $CATALINA_BASE/setenv.sh. This file will be sourced by
> catalina.sh
> > if
> > > >> it exists.
> > > >>
> > > > I have a feeling that i am writing in wrong place, setenv.sh dont
> > > > exist in my system, do i need to create that
> > >
> > > Yes, you can create it. It's better to create this file because it
> > won't
> > > be overwritten by any Tomcat upgrades you might perform in the
> > future.
> > >
> > > > or can i write directly in catalina.sh, if yes where to place
> this
> > > > configuration.
> > >
> > > You *can* put this into catalina.sh, but it would be better not to.
> > >
> > > - -chris
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