interesting. I can definitely use this as a reference if (ever) necessary,
thanks.

which brings me to my next question,

        //
        // take care next strategies can break multiple calls on the facade
        // it is only intended to be used for connection selection
        //


I recognized that in the code. I know I make many calls to @Stateless @EJB
facade objects to read/write data from/to database, and I also configured
tomcat jdbc pool  to allow for many connections...in/via tomee.xml
<Resource .../>.

so, my question... what is the rule of thumb when configuring jdbc pool and
tomee/openejb failover via dynamic datasources? on my development/test
server, I have the following:

<Resource id="jdbc/main" type="javax.sql.DataSource">
  JdbcDriver org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver
  JdbcUrl jdbc:derby:C:/javadb/databases/mcmsdev;create=true
  UserName ....
  Password ....
  JtaManaged true
  jmxEnabled true
  LogSql false
  InitialSize 10
  MaxActive 100
  MaxIdle 30
  MaxWait 10000
  minIdle 10
  suspectTimeout 60
  removeAbandoned true
  removeAbandonedTimeout 180
  timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis 30000
  jdbcInterceptors=StatementCache(max=128)
</Resource>

<Resource id="jdbc/fallback" type="javax.sql.DataSource">
  JdbcDriver org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver
  JdbcUrl jdbc:derby:C:/javadb/databases/mcms;create=true
  UserName ....
  Password ....
  JtaManaged true
  jmxEnabled true
  LogSql false
  InitialSize 10
  MaxActive 100
  MaxIdle 30
  MaxWait 10000
  minIdle 10
  suspectTimeout 60
  removeAbandoned true
  removeAbandonedTimeout 180
  timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis 30000
  jdbcInterceptors=StatementCache(max=128)
</Resource>

<Resource id="failover-router"
class-name="org.apache.openejb.resource.jdbc.router.FailOverRouter">
   datasourceNames = jdbc/main,jdbc/fallback
</Resource>

<Resource id="jdbc/mcmsJta" type="DataSource" provider="RoutedDataSource">
  router = failover-router
</Resource>

should I be configuring tomcat jdbc pooling on the dynamic datasources, or
on the routed datasource? also, I recognized something in the log file,
since RoutedDataSource has no URL, the following shows up in the log when
starting TomEE:

INFO: Creating Resource(id=jdbc/mcmsJta)
Nov 03, 2013 9:19:04 AM org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
createResource
INFO: can't find url for jdbc/mcmsJta will not monitor it




On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:

>  lookhttp://
> svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee/tomee/trunk/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/resource/jdbc/router/FailOverRouter.java
> last method
>
> it can still be enhanced a lot
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>
>
>
> 2013/11/3 Howard W. Smith, Jr. <smithh032...@gmail.com>:
> > okay, and one last question, is there a bit more documentation on the
> > following, so we can know what to expect, and the implementation is quite
> > sound, working as designed and no known issues with the following?
> >
> > <ul>
> > <li>default: the first is used while possible and others datasources are
> > just backup, this is typically the failover case</li>
> > <li>random: any datasource of the list is used</li>
> > <li>reverse: between two call to a method the list is reversed</li>
> > <li>round-robin[%N]: round robin between datasources, you can specify how
> > many step you browse between two calls using N (default is 1)</li>
> > </ul>
> >
> > i saw the limitations on the referenced pages (dynamic datasources), but
> I
> > didn't see any known issues in your/Romain's post/blog.
> >
> > please excuse my ignorance, if I have not heard or seen much chatter
> about
> > this on the mail list. I usually try to pay attention to almost all tomee
> > emails, especially those that interest me the most. :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <rmannibu...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> If you dont use it then thats ok. We close the pool then, not
> connections
> >> Le 3 nov. 2013 16:19, "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <smithh032...@gmail.com> a
> >> écrit :
> >>
> >> > FYI, I just stopped my local tomee, and recognized that my
> @Application
> >> > @PreDestroy has my code that stops Apache Derby prior to main and
> >> fallback
> >> > datasources are closed.
> >> >
> >> > is this okay?
> >> >
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer await
> >> > INFO: A valid shutdown command was received via the shutdown port.
> >> Stopping
> >> > the Server instance.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol pause
> >> > INFO: Pausing ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol pause
> >> > INFO: Pausing ProtocolHandler ["ajp-bio-8009"]
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService
> >> > stopInternal
> >> > INFO: Stopping service Catalina
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.LoginFilter destroy
> >> > INFO: ...
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM
> org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
> >> > destroyApplication
> >> > INFO: Undeploying app:
> >> C:\apache-tomee-plus-1.6.0-SNAPSHOT\webapps\mcmsweb
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.ApplicationScopeBean destroy
> >> > INFO: BEGIN
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM utils.database.DerbyUtil shutdown
> >> > INFO: DerbyUtil.java: shutdown() invoked
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM utils.database.DerbyUtil loadDriver
> >> > INFO: DerbyUtil.java: loadDriver(): Loaded driver
> >> > (org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver) successfully
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM utils.database.DerbyUtil shutdown
> >> > INFO: DerbyUtil.java: shutdown(): Derby shut down normally
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.ApplicationScopeBean destroy
> >> > INFO: gCalUtil.shutdown() completed
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.ApplicationScopeBean destroy
> >> > INFO: jodConverter.shutdown() completed
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM mdb.ApplicationMessageBean shutdown
> >> > INFO: ApplicationMessageBean.shutdown() BEGIN
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM mdb.ApplicationMessageBean shutdown
> >> > INFO: ApplicationMessageBean.shutdown() END
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.ApplicationScopeBean destroy
> >> > INFO: applicationMessageBean.shutdown() completed
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.ThreadLocalImmolater immolate
> >> > INFO: immolated 305 values in ThreadLocals
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM pf.ApplicationScopeBean destroy
> >> > INFO: END
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM org.apache.activemq.ra.ActiveMQEndpointWorker
> >> stop
> >> > INFO: Stopping
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:48 AM org.apache.activemq.ra.ActiveMQEndpointWorker
> >> stop
> >> > INFO: Stopping
> >> > [EL Info]: 2013-11-03
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> 10:12:48.682--ServerSession(1206174612)--file:/C:/apache-tomee-plus-1.6.0-SNAPSHOT/webapps/mcmsweb/WEB-INF/classes/_mcmsPU
> >> > logout successful
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:49 AM org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader
> >> > clearReferencesThreads
> >> > SEVERE: The web application [/mcmsweb] appears to have started a
> thread
> >> > named [PoolIdleReleaseTimer] but has failed to stop it. This is very
> >> likely
> >> > to create a memory leak.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:49 AM org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader
> >> > clearReferencesThreads
> >> > SEVERE: The web application [/mcmsweb] appears to have started a
> thread
> >> > named [ActiveMQ VMTransport: vm://localhost#5-5] but has failed to
> stop
> >> it.
> >> > This is very likely to create a memory leak.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:49 AM org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader
> >> > clearReferencesThreads
> >> > SEVERE: The web application [/mcmsweb] appears to have started a
> thread
> >> > named [ActiveMQ VMTransport: vm://localhost#5-6] but has failed to
> stop
> >> it.
> >> > This is very likely to create a memory leak.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:49 AM org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader
> >> > clearReferencesThreads
> >> > SEVERE: The web application [/mcmsweb] appears to have started a
> thread
> >> > named [ActiveMQ VMTransport: vm://localhost#4-4] but has failed to
> stop
> >> it.
> >> > This is very likely to create a memory leak.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol stop
> >> > INFO: Stopping ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol stop
> >> > INFO: Stopping ProtocolHandler ["ajp-bio-8009"]
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM
> org.apache.openejb.server.SimpleServiceManager
> >> > stop
> >> > INFO: Stopping server services
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM org.quartz.core.QuartzScheduler shutdown
> >> > INFO: Scheduler OpenEJB-TimerService-Scheduler_$_OpenEJB shutting
> down.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM org.quartz.core.QuartzScheduler standby
> >> > INFO: Scheduler OpenEJB-TimerService-Scheduler_$_OpenEJB paused.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM org.quartz.core.QuartzScheduler unregisterJMX
> >> > INFO: Scheduler unregistered from name
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> 'quartz:type=QuartzScheduler,name=OpenEJB-TimerService-Scheduler,instance=OpenEJB'
> >> > in the local MBeanServer.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM org.quartz.core.QuartzScheduler shutdown
> >> > INFO: Scheduler OpenEJB-TimerService-Scheduler_$_OpenEJB shutdown
> >> complete.
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM
> org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
> >> > destroyApplication
> >> > INFO: Undeploying app: openejb
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM
> org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
> >> > destroyResource
> >> > INFO: Closing DataSource: main
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM
> org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
> >> > destroyResource
> >> > INFO: Closing DataSource: fallback
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM
> org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
> >> > destroyResource
> >> > INFO: Stopping ResourceAdapter: Default JMS Resource Adapter
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:57 AM
> >> > org.apache.openejb.resource.activemq.ActiveMQResourceAdapter stop
> >> > INFO: Stopping ActiveMQ
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:58 AM
> >> > org.apache.openejb.resource.activemq.ActiveMQResourceAdapter stopImpl
> >> > INFO: Stopped ActiveMQ broker
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:58 AM
> org.apache.openejb.assembler.classic.Assembler
> >> > destroyResource
> >> > INFO: Closing DataSource: Default Unmanaged JDBC Database
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:58 AM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol destroy
> >> > INFO: Destroying ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
> >> > Nov 03, 2013 10:12:58 AM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol destroy
> >> > INFO: Destroying ProtocolHandler ["ajp-bio-8009"]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. <
> >> > smithh032...@gmail.com
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > okay, i set it up as your post demonstrated, I tested already, and I
> >> see
> >> > > no issues. it's time to test this in production. :)
> >> > >
> >> > > thanks romain! like i said in the other thread, I wish I knew about
> >> this
> >> > > earlier.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. <
> >> > > smithh032...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> So, the following replaces service-jar.xml (as per your post)?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> <Resource id="jdbc/ds" type="DataSource"
> provider="RoutedDataSource">
> >> > >>    router = failover-router
> >> > >> </Resource>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> and if I wanted to use the 'strategy' parameter, I would add to
> >> Resource
> >> > >> as demonstrated below?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> <Resource id="jdbc/ds" type="DataSource"
> provider="RoutedDataSource">
> >> > >>    router = failover-router
> >> > >>    strategy = random
> >> > >> </Resource>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> > rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Hi
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Failover is native but to customiee the algo you can code anything
> >> you
> >> > >>> want
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Tomee.xml is openejb.xml
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Service-jar.xml is today useless (see my post)
> >> > >>> Le 3 nov. 2013 14:55, "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <
> smithh032...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > a
> >> > >>> écrit :
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > First of all, thanks Romain for recommending the following, and
> for
> >> > >>> that I
> >> > >>> > will gladly start a new thread. :)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > TomEE/OpenEJB and failover of datasources[1]
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > which references
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > [OpenEJB] Dynamic Datasource[2]
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > but I found the following  TomEE example:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > [TomEE] Dynamic Datasource Routing[3]
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > So, before I begin, my questions are as follows:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > 1. I recognized that failover[1] says that the idea is to
> 'reuse'
> >> > >>> dynamic
> >> > >>> > datasource. Does this mean that we should code openejb[2] or
> >> tomee[3]
> >> > >>> > dynamic datasource, first, and then reference accordingly via
> >> > >>> failover[1]?
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > 2. or failover[1] requires no coding on our part? only developer
> >> > needs
> >> > >>> to
> >> > >>> > setup the failover 'config'?
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > 3. also, tomee[3] dynamic datasource routing recommends
> openejb.xml
> >> > >>> > (instead of tomee.xml). can openejb.xml cofiguration be placed
> in
> >> > >>> > tomee.xml, too, or not?
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > 4. okay, never mind, I was abouto ask for some clarification
> about
> >> > >>> > META-INF/org.router/service-jar.xml, but I 'found'
> service-jar.xml
> >> on
> >> > >>> > trunk[4]. :)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > [1]
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/tomeeopenejb-and-failover-of-datasources/
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > [2] http://tomee.apache.org/dynamic-datasource.html
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > [3]
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> http://tomee.apache.org/examples-trunk/dynamic-datasource-routing/README.html
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > [4]
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee/tomee/trunk/examples/dynamic-datasource-routing/src/main/resources/META-INF/org.router/service-jar.xml
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>

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