You need java 8 to compile tomee 8. Corba packages were removed in jdk 11.
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Jens Zurawski <j...@diegurus.de> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> to identify the "bad" version was easy. I didn't find a 8.0.7 release on
> the download page, so I started with 8.0.8. And this version already has
> the slow dev mode. So for my problem I can say:
> good: 8.0.6
> bad: 8.0.8
>
> Now, I think, I need a little help from you. I tried to build a TomEE
> out of git (I've cloned the github repository
> https://github.com/apache/tomee.git). I've tried these two commits:
> 20441eb (tag: tomee-8.0.6)
> 4c8a616 (tag: tomee-project-8.0.8)
>
> But the build fails every time on "TomEE :: Container :: Core" with:
>
> [INFO] BUILD FAILURE
> [INFO]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [INFO] Total time:  01:19 min
> [INFO] Finished at: 2023-10-27T10:29:40+02:00
> [INFO]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.6.2:compile
> (default-compile) on project openejb-core: Compilation failure:
> Compilation failure:
> [ERROR]
> /sandbox/tomee/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/core/OrbFactory.java:[21,21]
>
> package org.omg.CORBA does not exist
> [ERROR]
> /sandbox/tomee/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/core/OrbFactory.java:[24,12]
>
> cannot find symbol
> [ERROR]   symbol:   class ORB
> [ERROR]   location: class org.apache.openejb.core.OrbFactory
>
> I've tried to build with:
> mvn clean install
>
> My build environment is a linux ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS VM with:
> git 2.25.1
> Maven 3.6.3
> java 14.0.2
>
> Is it some easy thing to fix, or do I have to switch some versions of my
> environment?
>
> cu
> Jens
>
> Am 26.10.2023 um 19:48 schrieb Richard Zowalla:
> > Hi,
> >
> > without knowing code or having a reproducer, it might be not that
> > obvious to find a reason / answer for the "academic problem" ;-)
> >
> > If you really want to boil it down, I recommend the following approach:
> >
> > (1) From your description it seems, that 8.0.6 is the last known "good"
> > version.
> >
> > (2) You've investigated versions starting from 8.0.12 onwards, which
> > seems to be "bad".
> >
> > Following the approach recommended by Jonathan:
> >
> > - Can you check if it happens in 8.0.7 (8.0.8, ...) until we find the
> > first "bad" released version?
> >
> > - If we have that, you could start a "git bisect" session between 8.0.6
> > and the first version, which is known to be bad (reducing the amount of
> > needed bisect cycles dramatically), so we find a commit / reason (if it
> > is in TomEE).
> >
> > - It would involve some quick builds without executing tests (~10-15min
> > each) for each bisect step and testing on your side.
> >
> > Don't know if your inner monk is willing to go that route, but I am
> > happy to help with the related Maven commands for quick building :)
> >
> > Gruß
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, dem 26.10.2023 um 18:00 +0200 schrieb Jens Zurawski:
> >> Hi Vicente,
> >>
> >> thank you for the tip. This is a good workaround. When I switch to
> >> Production mode and insert this configuration, it reloads the view
> >> from
> >> the file if it has changed. This means, I can use a decent version of
> >> TomEE in my dev environment.
> >>
> >> However, it doesn't completely solve my problem, as the error
> >> reporting
> >> isn't as verbose as in Dev mode as far as I can see. But I have to
> >> check, maybe it's enough for my development.
> >>
> >> And, well.... the academic problem: "Why is it still broken in Dev
> >> mode?" still runs circles through my brain ;-) Because if it's a
> >> problem
> >> of my coding, it might be a good idea to change this, before it might
> >> get a problem on Production mode, too, at some time in the future.
> >>
> >> But anyway, you've helped me a good step forward, thanks.
> >> cu
> >> Jens
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 26.10.2023 um 17:04 schrieb Vicente Rossello:
> >>> We are using the production stage with
> >>> javax.faces.FACELETS_REFRESH_PERIOD
> >>> = 1. It's faster and more similar to production, just try it if it
> >>> solves
> >>> your problem
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 4:18 PM Jens Zurawski <j...@diegurus.de>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The one bundled with TomEE.
> >>>> myfaces 2.3.7 on TomEE 8.0.6
> >>>> and  e.g. myfaces 2.3.9 on TomEE 8.0.12
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 26.10.2023 um 16:08 schrieb Richard Zowalla:
> >>>>> Which JSF lib are you using?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 26. Oktober 2023 16:00:57 MESZ schrieb Jens Zurawski
> >>>>> <j...@diegurus.de
> >>>>> :
> >>>>>> Thank you for your quick reply, Jonathan.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is good to know, that normally the Dev mode should work as
> >>>>>> fast as
> >>>> before even with 8.0.15. So it obviously has something to do with
> >>>> my
> >>>> environment, configuration and/or code.
> >>>>>> And also thank you for the reference to tomitribe.
> >>>>>> Unfortunately I'm
> >>>> the only developer on this project, and it will be difficult to
> >>>> convince my
> >>>> customer to an additional support subscription, because he on
> >>>> production
> >>>> doesn't have issues ;-) But, ok, that's my problem, and maybe
> >>>> I'll consult
> >>>> tomitribe in the future for other projects.
> >>>>>> So, I'm afraid, for the near future I'm on my own to solve
> >>>>>> this
> >>>> problem. Therefore any hints to restrict the places where I
> >>>> should take a
> >>>> look will be more than welcome.
> >>>>>> I'm a senior programmer with 20 years of experience in Java
> >>>>>> programming
> >>>> (SE and JSP). But I'm relative new to JSF/JavaEE/JakartaEE and
> >>>> sometimes I
> >>>> have a hard time to understand which component of the whole stack
> >>>> is
> >>>> responsible for what.
> >>>>>> The project meanwhile has over a 1/4 million lines of code
> >>>>>> (most of
> >>>> them in the back-end, but also the front-end is big enough to not
> >>>> trace
> >>>> through every lane if I want to get to the point in this life :-D
> >>>> ).
> >>>>>> The application now runs for nearly 2 years on the customers
> >>>>>> site and
> >>>> is very reliable and fast in its daily usage. Apart from
> >>>> occasional updates
> >>>> every few month, it will never be restarted or need any manual
> >>>> maintenance
> >>>> at all. So I assume the code is not the badest on earth. At least
> >>>> because
> >>>> of that I'm able to out-rule things like memory leaks, gc issues
> >>>> or
> >>>> bottlenecks (max Heap is never reached, neither half of it, even
> >>>> after
> >>>> running for month).
> >>>>>> Of course there could be aspects of JSF which I may not have
> >>>>>> understood
> >>>> correctly until now. But because there are so many new things to
> >>>> a JSF
> >>>> beginner like me, I'm running out of ideas what this could be. It
> >>>> is
> >>>> something that worked well 'til TomEE 8.0.6 (Prod and Dev mode)
> >>>> and
> >>>> suddenly don't work anymore on 8.0.12 in Dev mode (but still
> >>>> works great in
> >>>> Prod mode). There are only minor versions in-between. So I think
> >>>> there were
> >>>> no revolutionary changes anywhere. My hope was (and still is),
> >>>> that anybody
> >>>> here on the list might have had a similar problem and has solved
> >>>> it, or
> >>>> maybe someone knows about some changes in Dev mode which could
> >>>> explain such
> >>>> behaviour (don't know, maybe xml parsing or component tree
> >>>> generation has
> >>>> changed, or scope handling of managed beans, or whatever could
> >>>> cause some
> >>>> code to be entered far more often than before, or some cache/pool
> >>>> was
> >>>> removed or has different behaviour... such things). Then it would
> >>>> be far
> >>>> more easy for me to track down the real problem.
> >>>>>> Anyway, when I get some spare time (currently have some
> >>>>>> deadlines in
> >>>> sight), I'll try to build a small test case. Either I can get a
> >>>> grip on the
> >>>> issue myself on doing this, or I can supply it to anyone who
> >>>> might want to
> >>>> have a look at it.
> >>>>>> cu
> >>>>>> Jens
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 26.10.2023 um 14:01 schrieb Jonathan S. Fisher:
> >>>>>>>> newer versions are so incredibly slow in dev mode
> >>>>>>> I can assure you that Dev/Prod mode works very very swiftly
> >>>>>>> on 8.0.15
> >>>>>>> for sizable applications. For example, I have a giant
> >>>>>>> application
> >>>>>>> (thousands of LOC, 50+ jsf views) that has sub-8ms response
> >>>>>>> times
> >>>>>>> (minus database time). More than likely they are doing
> >>>>>>> something they
> >>>>>>> should not be doing with JSF apis and are causing problems.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would check the obvious things first with VisualVM: heap
> >>>>>>> size, gc
> >>>>>>> frequency, etc. You can also run their profiler and see if
> >>>>>>> you can
> >>>>>>> spot anything immediately obvious.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After that, the easiest way to locate the code slowing you
> >>>>>>> down is
> >>>>>>> bisection. Cut half the code out, run, and continue cutting
> >>>>>>> until you
> >>>>>>> can locate the problematic code. Then after that, isolate a
> >>>>>>> test case
> >>>>>>> where flipping a boolean flag triggers the issue and post
> >>>>>>> the results
> >>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would get ahold of: https://www.tomitribe.com who are
> >>>>>>> literal
> >>>>>>> experts in this stuff. They offer professional services to
> >>>>>>> handle
> >>>>>>> exactly these situations and can work directly in your
> >>>>>>> codebase to
> >>>>>>> help you find and fix the problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 5:48 AM Jens Zurawski
> >>>>>>> <j...@diegurus.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi altogether,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm new to this list and hope it's the right place to ask
> >>>>>>>> this
> >>>> question.
> >>>>>>>> If not, and someone know the right place to ask this,
> >>>>>>>> please give
> >>>> advise.
> >>>>>>>> I'm developing a big JSF Application for a customer. It's
> >>>>>>>> a long
> >>>> running
> >>>>>>>> project and development and when I started with it, TomEE
> >>>>>>>> 8.0.6 was
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> most recent Version of TomEE. The switch to Jakarta is
> >>>>>>>> planned for
> >>>> next
> >>>>>>>> year, so I'm still on the 8.x path for the time being and
> >>>>>>>> wasn't able
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>> test if this problem still exists in the 9.x branch.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem:
> >>>>>>>> On the customers site I'm with the latest TomEE version
> >>>>>>>> 8.0.15
> >>>> (running
> >>>>>>>> on Java 11) and everything works fine, because it is
> >>>>>>>> running in
> >>>>>>>> production mode. But in my development environment I'm
> >>>>>>>> still stuck
> >>>> with
> >>>>>>>> 8.0.6, because there I need the development mode
> >>>>>>>> (javax.faces.PROJECT_STAGE: Development). I need to be
> >>>>>>>> able to see
> >>>>>>>> changes in facelets without restarting everything
> >>>>>>>> everytime, and to
> >>>> get
> >>>>>>>> more detailed error messages.
> >>>>>>>> My attempts to update my dev TomEE to something newer
> >>>>>>>> than 8.0.6 all
> >>>>>>>> failed, because all (at least all I've tested so far)
> >>>>>>>> newer versions
> >>>> are
> >>>>>>>> so incredibly slow in dev mode, that it's unbearable to
> >>>>>>>> use the
> >>>>>>>> application. Several very looong seconds on every request
> >>>>>>>> (even the
> >>>>>>>> little AJAX requests in a view) is simply not a practical
> >>>>>>>> environment.
> >>>>>>>> After switching to Production mode everything works very
> >>>>>>>> fast, and all
> >>>>>>>> my views have response times of very few ms (even the big
> >>>>>>>> ones with
> >>>> max.
> >>>>>>>> around 400ms). When switching back to Development mode I
> >>>>>>>> have response
> >>>>>>>> times of up to 30s on big views. Not with 8.0.6, there
> >>>>>>>> even in
> >>>>>>>> development mode it's reasonable fast in not getting
> >>>>>>>> higher than 1s.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My question:
> >>>>>>>> What causes this enormous performance degradation? I'm
> >>>>>>>> hoping, it is
> >>>>>>>> just a configuration which now has another default value
> >>>>>>>> or the like.
> >>>> If
> >>>>>>>> yes, maybe someone can point me in the right direction of
> >>>>>>>> where to
> >>>> find
> >>>>>>>> this configuration? If it's not a configuration thing:
> >>>>>>>> what can I do
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>> get around this?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I haven't tested all Versions of TomEE from 8.0.6 to
> >>>>>>>> 8.0.15, so I
> >>>> can't
> >>>>>>>> say at what version exactly this behaviour changes. If it
> >>>>>>>> helps or is
> >>>>>>>> needed, I can make some tests to find the exact version
> >>>>>>>> where this
> >>>>>>>> happens. Versions I've already tested are: 8.0.12, 8.0.13
> >>>>>>>> and 8.0.15.
> >>>>>>>> All of them are very slow in dev mode. If you need more
> >>>>>>>> information,
> >>>>>>>> I'll try to provide it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
> >>>>>>>> cu
> >>>>>>>> Jens
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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