Hi Wicketers, No doubt you guys are a vibrant community. It was nice listening to all the rant and raves and jitters and it is even more exciting to see some positive action on this small but important issue.
I am for Wicket, so I criticized it to make it even more widely adaptable, because wicket is a well thought out web framework. I looked into Maven and did all the Quick-Start exercise, I have the application up and running using Maven. Quick Start has following obvious flaws: 1. It is based on Maven. (I am not apache community with 25 projects running in parallel, I just want to make a small app using wicket. Maven is overkill). 2. It favors Jetty. ( Why even say Jetty, pom.xml has jetty dependencies defined. ) 3. It depends on log4j. (Newer JDK have all the logging features needed. ) 4. Advises the user to follow test driven development. (I want to be a bad developer, is that okay?). All above default integrations and suggestions are unnecessary and undermine Wicket and make it less appealing to Non-Wicketers and possible adopters of this great phenomenon. This is not the responsibility of the Wicket community to tell people what they should use or should not use. It is the decision of wicket end user if they want to integrate wicket with a double-cheese-burger :-) then let them do it on their own, but certainly Quick Start rather be as rudimentary as possible, take it as a marketing trick to entice the people to use wicket and make them fall in love with wicket at first sight. Thank you all for listening. =============================================== Craig Tataryn wrote: > > FYI Chickabee, if you are using Netbeans and use the Wicket plugin it is > bundled with some helpful sample apps. > > Craig. > > On 9/8/07, chickabee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for the great idea. >> >> It believe it will be good to put a few of the examples application in >> their own folders and war files so that they can be studied independently >> without the clutter of 20 projects. >> >> Another thing I notice is that maven is the default build tool used for >> wicket, I guess it will be good to provide the ant build.xml, just in >> case >> someone does not want full maven features. >> >> --------------- >> >> >> David Bernard-2 wrote: >> > >> > Welcome, >> > >> > If you want to start a blank project, try: >> > >> > $ mvn archetype:create -DarchetypeGroupId=org.apache.wicket >> > -DarchetypeArtifactId=wicket-archetype-quickstart >> > -DarchetypeVersion=1.3.0-beta3 >> > -DgroupId=com.mycompany >> > -DartifactId=myproject >> > $ cd myproject >> > $ more pom.xml >> > >> > then in this project try (copy/paste) the samples from the website. >> > >> > /david >> > >> > chickabee wrote: >> >> Hi Wicketers, >> >> >> >> I tried wicket today and the example application was up and running on >> >> tomcat in no time, so that was the good part, after that if I like to >> >> create >> >> a sample application on my own then I found no easy way to start. >> >> >> >> Examples are good to browse through and tell about wicket >> capabilities, >> >> however, not so good from learning point of view, All of the examples >> >> are >> >> glued together in one big jar file and it is just not quick enough to >> >> create >> >> a bare-bone application quickly and easily, >> >> >> >> I tried Quicket as mentioned in the readme file, however, Quickets is >> >> nothing but waste of time, because it is glued with Hibernate and >> Spring >> >> and >> >> both should not be there to start with. >> >> >> >> Not a good experience trying wicket so far, I guess it's the time to >> try >> >> out >> >> some more simpler app frameworks, >> >> >> >> -Thumbs Down to Wicket! >> >> >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/First-Day-Disgust%21-tf4405663.html#a12569195 >> Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/First-Day-Disgust%21-tf4405663.html#a12576738 Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
